Building up motor

ARrado15 · 04-11-2016, 02:37 PM

So i've been contemplating on getting the z1 engine rebuild kit form z1, but am pretty sure it would need to be taken to a shop to be installed. I've done rebuilds on a LS1 and an old 200sx motor, but nothing as advanced as the VQ. If I removed the motor and brought it to a shop, what would you think they would charge to swap out the Pistons and Rods? I'm assuming the crank and sleeves are good to stay?

Chuck33079 · 04-11-2016, 02:49 PM

Is your motor in need of a rebuild? A stock VQ in good condition will hold 500+whp with no issue.

ARrado15 · 04-11-2016, 02:54 PM

No it's not. 500 whp is what i'm going to try to aim for when I go with the BP turbo. I'm just wondering if while my car is down, is it beneficial to upgrade the pistons and rods. The kit is $1200, and wondering what a typical shop would charge for the job. I'm kind of weary about it, as I don't think any shops around here have dealt with VVEL.

JARblue · 04-11-2016, 03:00 PM

Sounds like you don't need to bother with it then ...

Hotrodz · 04-11-2016, 04:54 PM

Mine is holding up just fine on a stock block and internals at 600whp. Not necessary unless you want big power. If you plan to go e85 and get close to or above 700whp then I would say go for it but you want to get better rods and pistons...Carillo's and you are looking at about $6k for parts and installation. Either way I would look into flex fueling as e85 is plentiful in Vegas and your engine will run cooler.

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DEpointfive0 · 04-11-2016, 05:26 PM

Don't waste your time unless you're wanting to put down stupid amounts of power, or the car has 150k miles

zguynate · 04-11-2016, 07:49 PM

You can get rods and Pistons for around $1200, but to actually get them in the motor properly will cost you much more than that. I wouldn't recommend just straight swapping over rods and pistons. You would want to make sure your bearing clearances are suitable for the power you're looking for. Also, you would want to make sure your piston to wall clearance is also right. Sometimes standard size pistons aren't actually "standard". Your clearances could vary a few ten thousandths which could cause noise and unnecessary wear.

Now with all of that said, you could probably straight swap it all out and have no issues, but you will be doing it at your own risk.

COSMO · 04-11-2016, 07:52 PM

Is this your dd?

ARrado15 · 04-11-2016, 08:03 PM

Yea it's a dd. I'm probably going to leave the internal alone for right now. Maybe in the future i'll buy a used block and build it up

04-11-2016, 02:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
ARrado15 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 96 Drives: 370z M6 Rep Power: 16	Building up motor So i've been contemplating on getting the z1 engine rebuild kit form z1, but am pretty sure it would need to be taken to a shop to be installed. I've done rebuilds on a LS1 and an old 200sx motor, but nothing as advanced as the VQ. If I removed the motor and brought it to a shop, what would you think they would charge to swap out the Pistons and Rods? I'm assuming the crank and sleeves are good to stay? __________________ Stillen G3, Stillen CBE, Berk HFC, Eibach Springs, H&R Spacers, PW:JDM Knob, RJM Clutch Assembly, Z1 Clutch & Flywheel, Zspeed HD CSC, Stillen Oil Cooler

04-11-2016, 02:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Is your motor in need of a rebuild? A stock VQ in good condition will hold 500+whp with no issue. YzGyz and NismOrly22 like this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

04-11-2016, 02:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
ARrado15 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 96 Drives: 370z M6 Rep Power: 16	No it's not. 500 whp is what i'm going to try to aim for when I go with the BP turbo. I'm just wondering if while my car is down, is it beneficial to upgrade the pistons and rods. The kit is $1200, and wondering what a typical shop would charge for the job. I'm kind of weary about it, as I don't think any shops around here have dealt with VVEL. NismOrly22 likes this. __________________ Stillen G3, Stillen CBE, Berk HFC, Eibach Springs, H&R Spacers, PW:JDM Knob, RJM Clutch Assembly, Z1 Clutch & Flywheel, Zspeed HD CSC, Stillen Oil Cooler

04-11-2016, 03:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,449 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	Sounds like you don't need to bother with it then ... YzGyz likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

04-11-2016, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Mine is holding up just fine on a stock block and internals at 600whp. Not necessary unless you want big power. If you plan to go e85 and get close to or above 700whp then I would say go for it but you want to get better rods and pistons...Carillo's and you are looking at about $6k for parts and installation. Either way I would look into flex fueling as e85 is plentiful in Vegas and your engine will run cooler. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk YzGyz likes this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

04-11-2016, 05:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	Don't waste your time unless you're wanting to put down stupid amounts of power, or the car has 150k miles YzGyz likes this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

04-11-2016, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
zguynate A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Strangeland Posts: 1,053 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 73	You can get rods and Pistons for around $1200, but to actually get them in the motor properly will cost you much more than that. I wouldn't recommend just straight swapping over rods and pistons. You would want to make sure your bearing clearances are suitable for the power you're looking for. Also, you would want to make sure your piston to wall clearance is also right. Sometimes standard size pistons aren't actually "standard". Your clearances could vary a few ten thousandths which could cause noise and unnecessary wear. Now with all of that said, you could probably straight swap it all out and have no issues, but you will be doing it at your own risk. YzGyz likes this. __________________ 2009 370z touring w/sports package

04-11-2016, 07:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
COSMO A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL Posts: 1,816 Drives: 2012 Touring GTM TT Rep Power: 19	Is this your dd?

04-11-2016, 08:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
ARrado15 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 96 Drives: 370z M6 Rep Power: 16	Yea it's a dd. I'm probably going to leave the internal alone for right now. Maybe in the future i'll buy a used block and build it up __________________ Stillen G3, Stillen CBE, Berk HFC, Eibach Springs, H&R Spacers, PW:JDM Knob, RJM Clutch Assembly, Z1 Clutch & Flywheel, Zspeed HD CSC, Stillen Oil Cooler

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