370z on jalopnik

sgosh · 05-15-2016, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JDubya

I'm not going to argue about your opinion of Jalopnik and their relationship with Nissan (I don't read it nearly enough). I take your word for it that they may be bias towards Chevy or Ford.

With that said, I think the folks who read this article and say "Z BASHING!" are completely missing the point the author is trying to make. In brief, she's simply talking about the fact that buying a modded car isn't the same as modding the car herself. Buying an already modded car gives her the feeling that the car isn't truly her car--infused with her personality (obviously, someone else modded it!).

She loves her Evo because she built it, it has her personality. She doesn't appreciate the Z as much because someone else did all of this, and it has their personality. She could have purchased any modded car and the article would have been the same. She happened to choose a Z. Don't think too much into it, as the choice of modded car has little to do with this article; dare I say--nothing to do with it.

I guess I'll be in the minority here (at least on these forums, so far) and say that I loved this article. It articulated the same feelings I have when looking for a car. I'd rather build something that fits me, my personality and my needs. I want to have the feeling of accomplishment that goes along with that journey. I don't want to buy someone elses work. I'd imagine many others feel this same way. Kudos to her for articulating it so well.

TLDR; The article has nothing to do with the Z itself, it has to do with her love of modding a car herself and not purchasing someone elses work. Don't overthink things.

Spot on. That's what I took out of the article too.

Z_ealot · 05-15-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sgosh

Spot on. That's what I took out of the article too.

I get that part of the article too, but at the same time you have little jewels like this "and the Z uses its horsepower and torque with the efficiency and grace of a trash fire" strewen throughout the article that make you question why she bought the car in the first place lol

need4speed255 · 05-15-2016, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDubya

I'm not going to argue about your opinion of Jalopnik and their relationship with Nissan (I don't read it nearly enough). I take your word for it that they may be bias towards Chevy or Ford.

With that said, I think the folks who read this article and say "Z BASHING!" are completely missing the point the author is trying to make. In brief, she's simply talking about the fact that buying a modded car isn't the same as modding the car herself. Buying an already modded car gives her the feeling that the car isn't truly her car--infused with her personality (obviously, someone else modded it!).

She loves her Evo because she built it, it has her personality. She doesn't appreciate the Z as much because someone else did all of this, and it has their personality. She could have purchased any modded car and the article would have been the same. She happened to choose a Z. Don't think too much into it, as the choice of modded car has little to do with this article; dare I say--nothing to do with it.

I guess I'll be in the minority here (at least on these forums, so far) and say that I loved this article. It articulated the same feelings I have when looking for a car. I'd rather build something that fits me, my personality and my needs. I want to have the feeling of accomplishment that goes along with that journey. I don't want to buy someone elses work. I'd imagine many others feel this same way. Kudos to her for articulating it so well.

TLDR; The article has nothing to do with the Z itself, it has to do with her love of modding a car herself and not purchasing someone elses work. Don't overthink things.

That's what I interpretted after reading the article. I saw nothing negative about the Z as a car.

cooltoy · 05-14-2016, 01:40 PM

Must be that time of the month.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-14-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cooltoy

Must be that time of the month.

Fuckaattaheuhhhhhh

cooltoy · 05-14-2016, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Fuckaattaheuhhhhhh

Definitely.

kbc749 · 05-14-2016, 06:18 PM

I can totally recognize how it would feel to buy someone else's modified Z. Or any modified car.

Think about it, how much research did you do before you bought your first performance part or visual upgrade (or sticker). Did you turn the bolts yourself? To me, doing these things makes me a car person. Looking at all the options, what can I afford, is it worth it?

When I got my Berk HFC's and dealt with the demon bolt first hand.
When I got my Typhoon intakes and Z1 upper manifold and ran out to the garage one morning to knock it out before my other things I had to get done that day.
When I got these AAM Short Tails recently and had a small issue with one of the bolts being rounded off and having to cut the nut off and repair the threads a bit and dig through a gallon bucket of nuts to find a suitable replacement.
When I decided which tires I wanted to put on, how wide I can go and the pros and cons of each.
When I decided which stickers I was going to put on and where they were gonna go so there wasn't an overkill but I supported the causes/people/companies I wanted to.
When I decided to tint the windows, what levels I chose and why.
When I decided to paint the calipers and paint the engine cover red like a Nismo cover (250$ please)
When I decided to dye the stitching of the seats and panels red.
The GTR start button and carbon fiber trim pieces.
The fact that I love the weirdness of the black cherry paint color.

All of these things make my Z, my Z. They are what make me feel proud and can take pride when someone says "wow nice car" or insults me for it being a V6 or anything else. I feel pride because this is my Z, there are many like it but this one is mine. It is part of me.

I can totally respect that someone understands that feeling and feels like they are betraying themselves or the builder because, they didn't have these feelings, these emotions. They can still drive and appreciate the car but they don't have the same connection. That's not a bad thing, just a thing that I think we can all relate to in some way.

KBC749

Rusty · 05-15-2016, 04:06 PM

Boy, that was a dumb read.

felix0121 · 05-14-2016, 08:41 PM

Here's a positive article to Zs.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/8-r...are-brilliant/

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Rusty · 05-15-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by felix0121

Here's a positive article to Zs.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/8-r...are-brilliant/

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This was a nice read.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-14-2016, 10:26 PM

Drivers know the deal

https://youtu.be/JlkQgx4fQ3E

6spd · 05-15-2016, 03:11 PM

99% sure that was Glokworks car

Mike · 05-16-2016, 07:08 PM

The way I read it is that it didn't matter that the car she bought was a Z or any other car. It was the fact that its just not as fun and doesn't feel like yours if you buy someone else's modded car. For some people its fine to get one thats already built and a lot cheaper than building it yourself, but for others its the journey, not the end result.

maxdriver · 05-19-2016, 05:18 AM

Nice article! Very entertaining to read and most seem to agree, given the hundreds of responses to it.

JARblue · 05-19-2016, 09:49 AM

How can anyone not see that article is filled with backhanded slights disguised as tacky compliments lol

"It sounded like a Tyrannosaurus Rex" would have been a nice compliment. But she ends that sentence with "continually passing gas". And yet a broken down camaro has charm?

I also particularly liked this quote, knowing it is a VSR build: "the tune is wrong"

05-14-2016, 01:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
cooltoy Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Calgary Posts: 14,009 Drives: 14 PW 370Z S/T MT Rep Power: 243724	Must be that time of the month. jburch likes this. __________________ Member of kenchan's "photoshopped mods" and "proper offsets" gang.

05-14-2016, 06:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
kbc749 Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 161 Drives: 2010 370z 6MT Rep Power: 12	I can totally recognize how it would feel to buy someone else's modified Z. Or any modified car. Think about it, how much research did you do before you bought your first performance part or visual upgrade (or sticker). Did you turn the bolts yourself? To me, doing these things makes me a car person. Looking at all the options, what can I afford, is it worth it? When I got my Berk HFC's and dealt with the demon bolt first hand. When I got my Typhoon intakes and Z1 upper manifold and ran out to the garage one morning to knock it out before my other things I had to get done that day. When I got these AAM Short Tails recently and had a small issue with one of the bolts being rounded off and having to cut the nut off and repair the threads a bit and dig through a gallon bucket of nuts to find a suitable replacement. When I decided which tires I wanted to put on, how wide I can go and the pros and cons of each. When I decided which stickers I was going to put on and where they were gonna go so there wasn't an overkill but I supported the causes/people/companies I wanted to. When I decided to tint the windows, what levels I chose and why. When I decided to paint the calipers and paint the engine cover red like a Nismo cover (250$ please) When I decided to dye the stitching of the seats and panels red. The GTR start button and carbon fiber trim pieces. The fact that I love the weirdness of the black cherry paint color. All of these things make my Z, my Z. They are what make me feel proud and can take pride when someone says "wow nice car" or insults me for it being a V6 or anything else. I feel pride because this is my Z, there are many like it but this one is mine. It is part of me. I can totally respect that someone understands that feeling and feels like they are betraying themselves or the builder because, they didn't have these feelings, these emotions. They can still drive and appreciate the car but they don't have the same connection. That's not a bad thing, just a thing that I think we can all relate to in some way. KBC749 UNKNOWN_370, JARblue, mults and 3 others like this. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry 370Z Admin 3" intakes, Motordyne LTH, ART Pipes, AAM Catback, Z1 Anti Starve Kit, and some other stuff too

05-15-2016, 04:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rusty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 70 Posts: 35,574 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684440	Boy, that was a dumb read. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

05-14-2016, 10:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Drivers know the deal https://youtu.be/JlkQgx4fQ3E LMBmikeZ and JARblue like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

05-15-2016, 03:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 26	99% sure that was Glokworks car __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

05-14-2016, 08:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
felix0121 Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: / Posts: 476 Drives: / Rep Power: 69	Here's a positive article to Zs. https://www.carthrottle.com/post/8-r...are-brilliant/ Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

05-16-2016, 07:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2188	The way I read it is that it didn't matter that the car she bought was a Z or any other car. It was the fact that its just not as fun and doesn't feel like yours if you buy someone else's modded car. For some people its fine to get one thats already built and a lot cheaper than building it yourself, but for others its the journey, not the end result. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

05-19-2016, 05:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
maxdriver Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NH Posts: 20 Drives: '14 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 16	Nice article! Very entertaining to read and most seem to agree, given the hundreds of responses to it.

05-19-2016, 09:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 45 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684442	How can anyone not see that article is filled with backhanded slights disguised as tacky compliments lol "It sounded like a Tyrannosaurus Rex" would have been a nice compliment. But she ends that sentence with "continually passing gas". And yet a broken down camaro has charm? I also particularly liked this quote, knowing it is a VSR build: "the tune is wrong" UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

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