370z VS E46 M3 :)

370Z_Fan

It was the top of the line ACR Viper that beat a "base" GT-R. Should be interesting with the GT-R Spec V.

mrcardio

Actually the E92 has been recorded at 4.2 sec's 0-60.

And based on numberous lap recordings the M3 isn't too far off the Vipers and in some cases better.

Dodge Viper SRT-10 vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com


Or would you rather me give you some "my friend billy bob real life examples" ?

SOFLY00

2 great cars!

gnarf

Vette's are faster than E92 M3's any day...the E92 M3 however...is a better made car...

Mergnthwirker

H'mmm. Armchair experts.

We've got more armchair experts than a furniture mill.

These are all good cars. Drive what you like.
* Are you less of a man b/c you drive a BMW or a Z? (what if you are a woman?)
* How much does it matter in your daily commute?
* Are you talking track days or full-on racing, with appropriate mods for power & reliability?

Anthropologists note that in every society there is a search for a pecking order. Here it seems that if you are what you drive, the question is who I am better than (or who might be better than me).

Unless you're racing, just drive what you like, and if the other guy has a hot car, more power to him.

Actually, we should be banding together, not competing! Pretty soon we'll all be facing the pressures of the Greenies to drive socially responsible, shiny, happy Green cars. Enjoy this renaissance of performance and power while you can, cuz the world is changing and our share of the market is small enough to be marginalized and eliminated for all but the very rich.

My $.02, FWIW

370Zsteve

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Brandon26pdx

I love the E46M too but man, BMW biffed up on some of the engineering with those. The rear suspension rips out over time ($$$$) The VANOS units blow up on occasion ($$$), The rod bearings spun on the early models, SMG pumps go out and cause the car to be stuck in gear ($$), the exhaust catalyzers clog up and need replaced ($$).

Almost everything that breaks on those things costs a fortune to fix. It was one of those cars that I'm sure was bad a$$ to own if you had the scratch to buy one new and were smart enough to dump it before the warranty expired.

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XKaLiBaR

I am the owner and driver of the M3 in that video. Now i know where all the stupid comments came from on the video lol.

In the recent edition of Autocar, the 370z was compared to the M3 CSL, as both are same price. Yes, we compare current price of a vehicle, not what price the car was 10 years ago lol. The M3 won with flying colours on pretty much everything.

Dont get me wrong, the 370z is a fantastic car, if you like drifting, or big body kits and my dentist has one with chrome alloys, but its not the whole package. Im not sure on the 370z but the 350z was a terrible car. The interior was horrid for one thing, but that plastic interior is what you get with Nissan cars.

Back to the video. I was very excited to see the new 370z on track that day. But he was doing 1.25-1.26 lap times. That day my quickest was 1.23, with cracked rear subframe and loose sway bar up front. The car was very loose around the bends. I have had everything fixed, and had a remap done (+20bhp, 353bhp), and i am getting 1.21s on that particular track.

Current 1/4 mile on my M3 is 12.8 seconds, if you like that sort of thing.

Standard vs standard both m3 and 370z are very similar, except M3 gets back seats, and still weighs pretty much the same as the 370z. We are comparing a 10 year old car, which is worth 3 times less than a current 370z car at the moment.

My car will be in next months Performance BMW magazine, if you want to check it out. (its the red one)

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billydsz

Yeah? Was the sun in your eyes too? The Z was pulling away from you in the straights with ease. Maybe you were dragging a muffler? Anyway it was good the Z had a mechanical issue so you could overtake him.

Thanks for registering on the 370z site to bash our car. I am sure it's really appreciated.

xfrgtr

XKaLiBaR

It wasnt sunny

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I dont think we are watching the same video mate. Twice i had to let go of the throttle, so i didnt go into the back of him. First one at .32 seconds and seconds at 1.48 seconds.

And if it looked like he was pulling away, i would hope so, as he comes out the corner before me, and so is on the throttle first. Common sense really. But not once in the video, was he every pulling away on the straights.

What mechanical issue? Is this something you guys dreamed up together?

Have none of you guys been on track before? You dont keep going round and round the track no stop. You do cool down laps, so that the engine, brakes, tyres, and everything else cools down. Or else its bad for the car in every way, and you wear stuff down. These are road cars, not track cars, that get new tyres and brakes every time they go on track or race.

Well, one sided debates are a bit silly.

The fact of the matter is, the 350z was slow, and they had to bring the engine to a 3.7 litre to get the same power as the 3.2 litre S54 engine which is currently in the E46 M3.
Not sure why you guys are comparing your cars now to an E92 M3
In standard form, i have no issues keeping up with them, as weight is there downfall. But remap, full exhaust and pulleys, bring those cars up to 460bhp.
However, for the price of a new 370z, you can pick up an E92 M3 now.

I do agree that the E92 is a soft car compared to the previous models of M3s.

NYBladeZ

I hope you meant E46 because that would make sense. However, the Z responds to bolt on's better than the e46 and baseline will make more power to the wheels. At my last dyno day a stock e46 put down 282whp whereas I put down 296whp.

Frankly if you can get a new car with warranty for the same price you can get an older M why wouldn't you want a new car?

I don't mind M guys coming on here, especially e46 M3 guys, I know enough of them to know how you guys are. However, lets be real, the Z is faster than the e46 M3, handles just as well if not better, is cheaper to mod, and is still in the opening stages when it comes to aftermarket parts available. Frankly the only thing the e46 M3 has is 2 extra tiny seats and a BMW badge, but for some that's enough.

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XKaLiBaR

You can pick up an E92 for the same price as a new 370z. However, an E46 is third the price, or half if you want to get a low mileaged one.

The 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is identical to one another.

The top gear lap times comparing 2 cars 10 years apart is nonsense.