370z VS E46 M3 :)

shabarivas · 11-12-2009, 04:09 PM

the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

GingaBreadMan · 11-12-2009, 04:48 PM

That's interesting. I never looked at it that way. We always wanna know what the hp and tq numbers are for a given vehicle, whereas for our needs the average power would be more beneficial. I'm not very good at reading dyno charts, but I wonder how the 370 stacks up against other performance cars using this method. My apologies for being even more off topic.

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

ianthegreat · 11-12-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GingaBreadMan

That's interesting. I never looked at it that way. We always wanna know what the hp and tq numbers are for a given vehicle, whereas for our needs the average power would be more beneficial. I'm not very good at reading dyno charts, but I wonder how the 370 stacks up against other performance cars using this method. My apologies for being even more off topic.

Dont be, it's great conversation and we all learn from it. Now I haven't seen THAT many 370z dyno pulls, but it appears most of your power is above 5.5k.

Where as most turbo vehicles start hitting peak power around 5.5k - something the 335i deals with. The torque really shoots you out front, but after about 100mph it's anyones game - more often then not the larger NA engine. Myself and ArnVan on this forum run a lot and it really is awesome how much power the VQ puts out top end.

I know I'll probably be flamed for posting this.. but they recently released the new m3 gts. More of a track version than a DD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCzDOpVasHM

Sardis · 11-12-2009, 06:53 PM

I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does

Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk

Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track.

I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars.

E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving.

ianthegreat · 11-12-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sardis

I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does

Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk

Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track.

I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars.

E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Sardis · 11-12-2009, 07:04 PM

Did you ever run a 370 stock up to higher speeds? My buddy has a 335, but I have no 370 to run with him. I always thought they would be great competition for each other.

I had the opportunity to take a 335 up to 130ish and it felt like it wasn't losing much on the top end.

I hate mag racing but the Z always seems to pull a few more mph's at the strip..

GingaBreadMan · 11-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Ran a 335 that had 3 car lengths and at 110mph began to pass it. 335 doesn't have enough hp for the Z imo. What is considered higher speeds?

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Originally Posted by Sardis

Did you ever run a 370 stock up to higher speeds? My buddy has a 335, but I have no 370 to run with him. I always thought they would be great competition for each other.

I had the opportunity to take a 335 up to 130ish and it felt like it wasn't losing much on the top end.

I hate mag racing but the Z always seems to pull a few more mph's at the strip..

11-12-2009, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 18	I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track. I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars. E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving. __________________ "Because in a split second, it's gone." - Ayrton Senna

11-12-2009, 07:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sardis Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 72 Drives: EX Z Owner Rep Power: 18	Did you ever run a 370 stock up to higher speeds? My buddy has a 335, but I have no 370 to run with him. I always thought they would be great competition for each other. I had the opportunity to take a 335 up to 130ish and it felt like it wasn't losing much on the top end. I hate mag racing but the Z always seems to pull a few more mph's at the strip.. __________________ "Because in a split second, it's gone." - Ayrton Senna

11-12-2009, 04:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 916	the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame