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dmhenderson 06-26-2013 08:23 PM

Yep that looks fine.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2381263)

I like that, is that 2 defi on the right and what on the left?
And yes the Camp2 is retarded expensive. I was able to get a decent deal on one as it was in stock and they wanted it gone, but I mine is just reading the OBD2 and a couple add on modules. Have to spend another 600 bucks for just AFR. :shakes head:

MyKindaGuise 06-27-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 2381734)
I like that, is that 2 defi on the right and what on the left?

innovative lc1 digital gague

Baer383 06-27-2013 07:42 AM

Yes it is a Innovative a/f on the left and Defi boost and oil temp gauge.

Sorry dreamer 52mm they fit right in.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 07:46 AM

And now I know what I want for Christmas...I hate you guys. :p
Which Defi set are they? The 52mm or 60mm?

dmhenderson 06-27-2013 07:48 AM

Pretty sure they're the 52mm Red Racer series which is what I'm getting.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 08:08 AM

The red racer series looks nice then, I assume that is the just plug into the connection you want and do not need the defi control box or anything?

Chuck33079 06-27-2013 08:16 AM

Right, it's not the setup where you need a $300 control box to run a $200 gauge.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2381777)
Right, it's not the setup where you need a $300 control box to run a $200 gauge.

Good, tired of spending on gauges and having to get extra sh1t that should not be required.

dmhenderson 06-27-2013 08:51 AM

Oh hey maybe you guys can answer this question then:
What sensor(s) do I need to run that setup?

Innovate AFR, Defi Oil Temp and Defi Boost? I posed that question to a couple sponsors and haven't gotten a response yet.

Chuck33079 06-27-2013 08:53 AM

When I bought gauges, I got the package for boost and AFR from Sam. Everything was included. I'm not sure if you buy everything seperately if you have to buy the O2 sensor separately. The oil temp should include a sender.

dmhenderson 06-27-2013 08:59 AM

These gauges are pricey as **** so I'm hoping the sensors are including. Checking with the shop doing my install to see if I can get a deal.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 09:04 AM

The gauges are a bit pricey, but think of it as more insurance if anything happens. Spend a little more now and save later.

Chuck33079 06-27-2013 09:07 AM

Plus, gauges look cool. I'd have them all over if I could. The more gauges, dials and little blinking lights the better. If my wallet was unlimited my dash would look like the cockpit of a 747.

dmhenderson 06-27-2013 09:41 AM

Moore got the gauges I wanted for a steal. Sold.

theDreamer 06-27-2013 09:42 AM

So for the defi gauges it comes with everything you need?
The Innovative one is a kit so that has everything.

dmhenderson 06-27-2013 11:22 AM

Yes. No additional hw required.


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theDreamer 06-27-2013 01:03 PM

Well...my Christmas list is set already.

dmhenderson 07-07-2013 12:32 PM

Ok just a quick update:
-Gauges were delivered to the shop on Fri (I think). Pics forthcoming.
-Spoke to Sam at GTM and the kit will ship to my shop this week.

I am on-schedule for install the week of 7/21

theDreamer 07-08-2013 07:38 AM

:excited:

dmhenderson 07-11-2013 12:34 PM

Supercharger kit is complete. We're just waiting on the powder coater at this point (powdered couplers/intercooler).

Looks like we'll be shipping today/tomorrow at the latest.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 09:31 PM

So one last time: How important is it for me to have an oil pressure gauge? There really isn't a good place to mount one but several people have told me I'm insane not to have one.

How common are burst hoses? I would need to know sooner rather than later as I would have to order yet another gauge and figure out a place to mount the AFR gauge (I guess)

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 09:33 PM

(I worry a lot)

boosted_mx5 07-12-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2402354)
So one last time: How important is it for me to have an oil pressure gauge? There really isn't a good place to mount one but several people have told me I'm insane not to have one.

How common are burst hoses? I would need to know sooner rather than later as I would have to order yet another gauge and figure out a place to mount the AFR gauge (I guess)

Oil pressure is nice, but I wouldn't say necessary. Your car has a dumby light that would go off if you lost oil pressure (Read, if light goes off shut car down immediately). Even in the event that you did lose all oil, for some unknown reason, you'd have to be watching the gauge to notice.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 09:51 PM

That gauge is +$240 to my build that I don't really have plus I really hate the ricey A pillar mount. If it's not going to be useful, I really don't want to A) ruin the aesthetic or B) dip into savings for a dumb gauge I don't need.

Red__Zed 07-12-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2402354)
So one last time: How important is it for me to have an oil pressure gauge? There really isn't a good place to mount one but several people have told me I'm insane not to have one.

How common are burst hoses? I would need to know sooner rather than later as I would have to order yet another gauge and figure out a place to mount the AFR gauge (I guess)

It's not common, but it's catastrophic if it occurs.

It's up to you whether it matters enough to get one. You can always find a creative place to put the gauge if you look long enough.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2402385)
It's not common, but it's catastrophic if it occurs.

It's up to you whether it matters enough to get one. You can always find a creative place to put the gauge if you look long enough.

I guess my question is: How much does a pressure gauge help over your standard check engine light? I mean, if it happens that fast - how likely am I to be glancing at the gauge the instant the failure happens?

Red__Zed 07-12-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2402389)
I guess my question is: How much does a pressure gauge help over your standard check engine light? I mean, if it happens that fast - how likely am I to be glancing at the gauge the instant the failure happens?


I'd prefer to have the info, you'll have to decide for yourself. The light is set with a pretty low trigger so I'd say it's value is questionable.

There are some oil pressure gauges that will support an audible or visible warning below a certain pressure.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 10:08 PM

Well, I have 2 defi gauges and 1 innovate (AFR) so the pressure gauge would need to be defi. Again, that gauge is $240.

If it's REALLY worth it, I'll consider adding it to the build somehow but that's a lot for a gauge I may not need. I dunno.

Red__Zed 07-12-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2402411)
Well, I have 2 defi gauges and 1 innovate (AFR) so the pressure gauge would need to be defi. Again, that gauge is $240.

If it's REALLY worth it, I'll consider adding it to the build somehow but that's a lot for a gauge I may not need. I dunno.

There are Defi's with the warning. I had one in my S.

For me, $250 is noise in the cost of a build, and I'd rather have the extra insurance.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 10:16 PM

I don't see anything with "warning" in the description. I have the defi "red racer" series.

Red__Zed 07-12-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2402426)
I don't see anything with "warning" in the description. I have the defi "red racer" series.

I think you'd have to do a higher end series to get the warnings.

dmhenderson 07-12-2013 10:30 PM

Ok well the gauges I'm buying are 200+ per-gauge and I can't really go much higher than that.

Rusty 07-12-2013 10:31 PM

With the stock warning light. When it comes on, it's too late to do anything. With a gauge. If it's a slow loss of pressure. You'll see it and shut the engine off. No such luck with the light.

dmhenderson 07-15-2013 12:59 PM

Ok so last minute change. I'm going to run oil pressure, boost and AFR and delete oil temp. Reasoning being I still have my engine temp monitor and I'm not going to be doing any heavy duty track work that would get into the danger zone anyway. If the engine temp skyrockets, I will know.

Chuck33079 07-15-2013 01:05 PM

Oil temp fluctuates a lot more than water temp. You might be into limp mode before you see the water temp move at all.

dmhenderson 07-15-2013 01:14 PM

I'll take limp mode over engine failure any day of the week.

Chuck33079 07-15-2013 01:18 PM

Any reason you can't put a gauge or two in the cubby? I'd rather do that than completely remove the oil temp gauge.

dmhenderson 07-15-2013 01:28 PM

I would if I could keep my stock oil temp gauge. I don't think I can though because lol nissan.

Chuck33079 07-15-2013 01:33 PM

You'd have to buy a new oil temp gauge whether you put new gauges in the dash pods or stash it in the cubby. You're far enough into this build where another $2-300 is just noise. I wouldn't go without it completely. I'd say it's arguably more important on a sc build than a boost gauge, since you're running a fixed boost level and don't have to worry about overboosting. Not to say you're considering not running a boost gauge, just that's where it would fall on my list of engine parameters to keep an eye on.


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