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FPenvy 06-17-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2366725)
Melting headlights: mildly inconvenient
Melting pistons: ???


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i was just gonna come have some beers and hand you tools :tiphat:

dmhenderson 06-17-2013 11:58 AM

haha thanks for the offer.

Moore auto will be doing the install and tune. I will be hanging around their shop all day "helping". I'm sure you'd be welcome to stop by but I doubt they'd be cool with a bunch of us idiots standing around drinking beer.

dmhenderson 06-17-2013 05:16 PM

So next question for those of you playing along:

After read MKG's thread - How concerned do I have to be about thermal wrap? I sprung for the thermal coating for the supercharger itself. What else do I need to do?

m4a1mustang 06-17-2013 05:19 PM

You must always zone out cooling.

Baer383 06-17-2013 05:31 PM

I wouldn't worry to much about thermal wrap I don't have any on mine and as you can see my numbers mine doesn't suffer at all.:tiphat:

dmhenderson 06-17-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2367317)
You must always zone out cooling.

I don't know what this means but the oil cooler will have the vented fender liner and (possibly) my drivers side brake duct tube. Will be off-center towards the wheel well.

m4a1mustang 06-17-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2367346)
I don't know what this means but the oil cooler will have the vented fender liner and (possibly) my drivers side brake duct tube. Will be off-center towards the wheel well.

You know what it means ;)

dmhenderson 06-19-2013 09:22 AM

Finalized my install/tune quote with Moore. They want an entire week to do it just to be safe. So I'm taking off Monday, July 29th to head to Moore and "assist" with taking the car apart. I'm dragging Cliff from Daedalus Customs with me because he wants to handle removing the headlights himself - since the last time the car was worked on the body shop broke the moisture seals on both lights which caused issues. Doubt I'm going to take the entire week off but I'm asking them to take tons of pictures.

dmhenderson 06-21-2013 12:55 PM

So after a bit of talking with the GTM guys, I'm going to leave my fuel pump and injectors alone for a bit and run what comes with the kit I bought. If I really feel the need to **** with it afterward, I can always come back later. Full kit contents:

-Rotrex C38 supercharger
-GTM compressor housing
-GTM Supercharger Billet aluminum brackets
-GTM billet aluminum Sc pulley
-GTM supercharger cooler kit
-Rotrex Supercharger Traction fluid
-4-Ply High Resistance Nomex Silicon couplers
-Stainless Steel T-Bolt clamps
-2.5 x 10 x 24 Bar and Plate Core Intercooler Rated @ 700hp
-Polished aluminum IC Piping
-3” MAF housing
-GTM Oil Filter Relocation Kit
-4.5” diameter Air Intake System
-Turbosmart Bypass Valve
-Pre-made steel braided oil and P.S Supply & Return lines
-All Necessary Hardware and Installation Instructions
-GTM Custom mapped plug and play engine management for optimum engine tune and power .
-GTM Basic fuel system with Bosch EV-14 650CC Injectors and - Walbro 255 Fuel Pump .
-GTM Fuel Pump Voltage Stabilizer Kit
-GTM Custom Drive belt By Bando
-GTM Heavy duty Belt idlers

SS_Firehawk 06-21-2013 01:34 PM

I have the same injectors n pump with my kit. If I feel the need for more, the pump and injectors should be good for anyone wanting to play with E85 on a NA car, or anyone buying a tuner version of the kit.

dmhenderson 06-21-2013 01:36 PM

Yeah. I'm just gonna start from there and see how it feels. I can always upgrade later.

eastwest2300 06-21-2013 02:51 PM

I saw my name in your opening thread.. i was like wtf?!:bowrofl::bowrofl: Me, saying things?:roflpuke2: Man, you want a "show car." What you're doing right now, will get you to that point.:tup:

dmhenderson 06-24-2013 02:05 PM

Liked Kirk's setup so I'm going with a PLX multigauge and daisy chained AFR/oil pressure/boost modules (oil pressure default).

Really love the defi sweep gauges but there's nowhere to put them except the A pillar which is a little too fast and too furious for me.

The guys at Doran recommended a really high end multigauge (forget brand) but it starts at $1200 without sensors so....


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dmhenderson 06-24-2013 02:06 PM

Dash replacement options for a 6 gauge setup were just retardedly expensive so PLX it is.


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dmhenderson 06-25-2013 10:51 AM

Anyone want to educated me on pulleys? I requested the 88mm pulley with my kit and was told I would need to be careful because I would be putting down over 500whp but that it wasn't dangerous to the motor or the SC.

Was told the kit normally comes with a 96mm and there is also a 92mm option as well.

Anyone know if going to the 88mm is a bad idea?

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378532)
Anyone want to educated me on pulleys? I requested the 88mm pulley with my kit and was told I would need to be careful because I would be putting down over 500whp but that it wasn't dangerous to the motor or the SC.

Was told the kit normally comes with a 96mm and there is also a 92mm option as well.

Anyone know if going to the 88mm is a bad idea?


I tried to get the 88 mm pulley from Sam but he said the blower would be spinning to fast so I got the 92mm

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:09 AM

I just talked to Sam and he said on 93 octane it wouldn't be a problem. Should I go back up to 92?

FPenvy 06-25-2013 11:13 AM

go for moarrrrr powaaaaaa lol 88mm

m4a1mustang 06-25-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2367346)
I don't know what this means but the oil cooler will have the vented fender liner and (possibly) my drivers side brake duct tube. Will be off-center towards the wheel well.

must
always
zone
out
cooling


fgt.

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:14 AM

Well I don't want to do anything to endanger the motor or the blower which is why I'm asking for advice here. Anyone know?

Is 88 safe on 93 octane?

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2378583)
must
always
zone
out
cooling


fgt.

Yes I got it :P

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378573)
I just talked to Sam and he said on 93 octane it wouldn't be a problem. Should I go back up to 92?

I have been trying to get that pulley from him for 2 years , I have the 92mm (11lb) on it now and have 516 @ the wheel.

Again he told me the SC would be spinning too fast and the life of the SC would be diminished

FPenvy 06-25-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378584)
Well I don't want to do anything to endanger the motor or the blower which is why I'm asking for advice here. Anyone know?

Is 88 safe on 93 octane?

dont ask me then you know my answer will always be more power

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dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2378588)
I have been trying to get that pulley from him for 2 years , I have the 92mm (11lb) on it now and have 516 @ the wheel.

I don't know if I want more than that tbh. How much of a difference would it make HP-wise?

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378598)
I don't know if I want more than that tbh. How much of a difference would it make HP-wise?

You will probably get 450-475hp with the 92 maybe alittle more with a dialed in tune.

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:25 AM

"failed in tune"? What does that mean?

Why would I get 450-475 if you're running 516 with the same kit?

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378610)
"failed in tune"? What does that mean?

Why would I get 450-475 if you're running 516 with the same kit?

I meant dialed in this phone sucks!!!

B/c mine is a Nismo, I had the same set up on my 2010 sport/touring and I made 470 put the same kit on my Nismo 516

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baer383 (Post 2378618)
I meant dialed in this phone sucks!!!

B/c mine is a Nismo, I had the same set up on my 2010 sport/touring and I made 470 put the same kit on my Nismo 516

So I have a Nismo as well vOv
Also I don't know why the trim would matter. It's the same motor.

theDreamer 06-25-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378623)
So I have a Nismo as well vOv
Also I don't know why the trim would matter. It's the same motor.

There is a debate if the Nismo has advanced VVEL tuning versus the basic coupe. Baer has shown there might be some truth to this debate.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 11:34 AM

Wasn't part of the hp difference due to the fact the non-nismo was a 7at?

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:35 AM

I'm gonna downgrade to the 92mm. I don't want to risk the motor and general consensus seems to be that there's a good reason they don't give you the 88mm from the jump. I can't see myself needing more than 500whp (ever) and blowing the motor up isn't on my agenda for this year.

Chuck33079 06-25-2013 11:36 AM

500ish whp is a TON of power. I think you'll be fine.

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2378635)
500ish whp is a TON of power. I think you'll be fine.

I'd like to break 500 but I don't want to go any further than that.

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378654)
I'd like to break 500 but I don't want to go any further than that.

Do the 92mm and a good tune and you should be about 475-500

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:49 AM

Again, you're at 516 right? I'm assuming it should be about the same.

theDreamer 06-25-2013 11:50 AM

It will all come down to the tune, weather and type of dyno.

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 11:52 AM

It'll be a dynojet dyno and it will be the middle of july so ...hot.

As for the tune, we're going to take the pre-flash we get from GTM and then tweak it.

Baer383 06-25-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2378681)
It'll be a dynojet dyno and it will be the middle of july so ...hot.

As for the tune, we're going to take the pre-flash we get from GTM and then tweak it.

I'm at 516 now, as far as the GTM Tune it's good but very rich you will probably start at 440-455 first pull and work from there.

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 12:03 PM

So you still haven't explained why you would be at 516 but I woudn't assuming we tune it...?

dmhenderson 06-25-2013 12:06 PM

Seems to be some concern as well that at 500+ whp, the piston rings will fry inside of 50k miles (that would be bad). Any thoughts?


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