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travisjb 06-24-2009 05:04 PM

Here's what I'm running, generally happy with this

Front camber: -2.00
Rear camber: -2.50
Front caster: +6.00 (stock is 5.0)
Front toe: 0.00
Rear toe: +0.10

I'm not the world's expert on all this but here are my thoughts...

I have less front negative camber, but I get more front roll-induced camber because I set the caster +1 over stock to 6.0. I like the higher caster angle b/c it helps hold straight track with a neutral to slight toe-out setting. I may toe-out front a hair to get quicker turn-in response and scale back understeer, but it is pretty much fine now and appropriate considering stock bushings create some minor compliance and toe-out under acceleration. I have modest rear toe-in now and will probably have that dialed to neutral or slight toe out next time around... Some rear toe out would be appropriate to help balance out understeer tendancy and more if you like to hang it out... as you mention tire life is tradeoff on toe settings.

M.Bonanni 06-24-2009 05:30 PM

The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

RCZ 06-24-2009 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DannyGT (Post 98534)
Print my settings that I posted and just go slightly more aggressive than that...Mine is working out lovely, and I have the ability to go one notch tighter on the rear sways if I need to get a bit more snap...

The guys I went to are pro, and when I say pro, I mean they are no joke, and mainly setup track porsches etc

The guy I go to is also very good, he setup a couple of big time winning cars apparently. I'm not sure where your settings are, i looked at your journal and didnt find much in the way of a setup, just some camber settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by travisjb (Post 98650)
Here's what I'm running, generally happy with this

Front camber: -2.00
Rear camber: -2.50
Front caster: +6.00 (stock is 5.0)
Front toe: 0.00
Rear toe: +0.10

I'm not the world's expert on all this but here are my thoughts...

I have less front negative camber, but I get more front roll-induced camber because I set the caster +1 over stock to 6.0. I like the higher caster angle b/c it helps hold straight track with a neutral to slight toe-out setting. I may toe-out front a hair to get quicker turn-in response and scale back understeer, but it is pretty much fine now and appropriate considering stock bushings create some minor compliance and toe-out under acceleration. I have modest rear toe-in now and will probably have that dialed to neutral or slight toe out next time around... Some rear toe out would be appropriate to help balance out understeer tendancy and more if you like to hang it out... as you mention tire life is tradeoff on toe settings.

I will take this into account too. I am going to ask him what he thinks I should do as well and go from there. I'll let you guys know what I end up with tomorrow. I'm not going to lower the front any more, just taking the rear up a notch so its even with the front. I know it could "look" more aggressive, but suspension travel is good on track...

DannyGT 06-24-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 98671)
The guy I go to is also very good, he setup a couple of big time winning cars apparently. I'm not sure where your settings are, i looked at your journal and didnt find much in the way of a setup, just some camber settings.

No problem - http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...t-results.html

I gave them the 2009 370z OEM factory settings that was posted on here as a baseline and told them to go more aggressive based on that...

Granted I havent tracked the car since then but it still feels solid. You might have to get it done twice just to get it the way you want.

travisjb 06-24-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 98669)
The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

That's a good point and considering this car is already light in the back prob better to run neutral rear toe or +0.1 like mine is now

RCZ 06-24-2009 10:38 PM

I think I'm going to keep the toe at 0 guys. Maybe 1/16th...will let you know what happens tomorrow night.

biggestbob 06-25-2009 05:18 AM

Got enough speed bumps? Eheh..... BTW, the stillen intake/exhaust system sounds awesome!

RCZ 06-25-2009 06:45 PM

Thanks!

Alright, so alignment went well. Everything is working brilliantly. I left the car up a little bit so I can clear my speedbumps.

We are doing a little bit of testing, went with -2 camber front and rear. and .05 toe in rear.

We will see how that fares.

Tim 07-19-2009 12:23 PM

beautiful journal, just went through the 17 pages so far
+1 :icon17:

RCZ 07-19-2009 02:15 PM

Thank you! It's been dormant for a little while, but it'll come back. Its too damn hot in Miami to do anything.

Tim 07-19-2009 07:55 PM

yeah here in jax, we're breaking 100 every day if its not raining, cant imagine how hotter miami is

RCZ 07-22-2009 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDMotorsports (Post 98669)
The only thing I would worry about going toe out in the rear is bump steer. When under braking or going over bumps where weight is transfered off the rear, raising your suspension, your toe will go out even more and could cause some pretty hairy moments under braking.

Car definitely felt a LOT better when the suspension was lower. I am going to set it back down and find a way to deal with the speedbumps...

LUVZTTZ 07-24-2009 05:33 PM

Stillen Pulley?
 
What's the status on your Stillen pulley? I'm curious to know what you think about it. Looks like the only mod left standing in your signature!

RCZ 07-24-2009 05:50 PM

Yup, never installed it. I was thinking about going to the underdriven ones. Next time the cars in the shop I might consider throwing it in...

From what I heard, not a huge difference, more difference with the underdriven ones. I may sell this one or trade with someone.

KingDavid 08-03-2009 02:00 PM

Well time to go bye bye!

RCZ 08-03-2009 02:37 PM

I wonder why they always spam on my thread...

theDreamer 08-03-2009 02:39 PM

Might be the tag at the bottom I see.

FuszNissan 08-03-2009 02:39 PM

They look for the highest traffic threads and spam them......don't let that go to your head now

theDreamer 08-03-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 136272)
They look for the highest traffic threads and spam them......don't let that go to your head now

It already has with that comment.

BamBam 08-04-2009 01:53 AM

Awesome write up here. I'm looking to move to Tampa area, buy a Z, and do some track days and start the mod-insanity over the next year. This has been an informative thread. :tup:

With that said, let's try to keep the off-topic replies and bumps and comments off of here so only the important stuff gets said...... well crap.... I just screwed up THAT idea. :icon18:


:gtfo2: okay, okay, i can read the sign

So RCZ, you said you had a WRX or STI in one of these 18 pages of thread, so you like the Z alot better I take it? Supposedly the WRX or STI can get better track times with a lot less money, anyhow, I guess i'm deciding between the Z and Subie, leaning toward the Z.

RCZ 08-05-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 136272)
They look for the highest traffic threads and spam them......don't let that go to your head now

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 136273)
It already has with that comment.

Wha?

RCZ 08-05-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 137099)
Awesome write up here. I'm looking to move to Tampa area, buy a Z, and do some track days and start the mod-insanity over the next year. This has been an informative thread. :tup:

With that said, let's try to keep the off-topic replies and bumps and comments off of here so only the important stuff gets said...... well crap.... I just screwed up THAT idea. :icon18:


:gtfo2: okay, okay, i can read the sign

So RCZ, you said you had a WRX or STI in one of these 18 pages of thread, so you like the Z alot better I take it? Supposedly the WRX or STI can get better track times with a lot less money, anyhow, I guess i'm deciding between the Z and Subie, leaning toward the Z.

Definitely go with the Z. Way more fun and I think it can be made to go pretty quick around the track. It's probably as fast as my STI was now. The Z is so much more enjoyable.

theDreamer 08-05-2009 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 139310)
Wha?

Sorry, meant with the tag.

RCZ 08-07-2009 03:49 PM

I didnt put that tag there

ZForce 08-07-2009 06:23 PM

Subscribing

Very good write up, I am still on your intro page but well worth the time to read all 18 pages to catch up.

Btw: great color choice!

Cheers
Curtis

RCZ 08-10-2009 02:07 PM

Thanks, glad I can help :)

RCZ 08-19-2009 01:29 PM

I've decided to pick up some Stillen sway bars (surprise) to get rid of my last bit of body roll, expect a review with pictures and video in the following weeks. Will try and get a stock Z to do a comparison slalom video of stock vs kwv3 vs kwv3+sways.

FuszNissan 08-19-2009 04:31 PM

^^Nice.

ZForce 08-19-2009 09:01 PM

Looks like you are going for a full out Stillen car minus the suspension. I hope Stillen is giving you some sort of a kick back on the parts for repping a Stillen car. :tup:

Can't wait to see the video.

KingDavid 08-23-2009 01:05 PM

Were you...uhhh..."Having fun" on Friday night?

RCZ 08-23-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 159737)
Looks like you are going for a full out Stillen car minus the suspension. I hope Stillen is giving you some sort of a kick back on the parts for repping a Stillen car. :tup:

Can't wait to see the video.

They have definitely helped me out!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingDavid (Post 164978)
Were you...uhhh..."Having fun" on Friday night?

What do you mean? Maybe you saw another 370.... Also, I saw a red Nismo and a PG touring on the beach saturday during the day, I thought no one had Nismos here yet.

KingDavid 08-23-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 165074)
They have definitely helped me out!



What do you mean? Maybe you saw another 370.... Also, I saw a red Nismo and a PG touring on the beach saturday during the day, I thought no one had Nismos here yet.

Lol, your tag. I thought it was the same one that I saw on Friday. That 370 had some mods and was murdering a LOT of cars. I haven't seen a Nismo on the road but they're at Esserman Nissan IIRC.

RCZ 08-23-2009 03:13 PM

I'm going to head over there and td one.

Oh I dont know, there's a bunch of PG Z's around here now. I was having a quiet dinner and reading a book friday night.

DannyGT 08-26-2009 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuimos (Post 170914)
Wow.................!
Hats off to the crater it very very very wonderful and sporty car .
It looks very awesome and beautiful .
Create like this more and keep posting to us daily .

thank you .

Nuimos.

SUPER CAR

Great stuff! :roflpuke2:

RCZ 08-26-2009 11:04 PM

:tup:yeah haha awesome post thanks!

370zForever 09-14-2009 09:37 PM

RCZ, I was wondering what you thought about my tuning options for certain things?? I am not much of a tuning guy or a track day beast so I don't really know much..
What do you think about HKS III Coilovers?
Also is the driveshaft rattle because of the light Aluminum flywheel..bad...(I'm a bit of a sissy and kinda want some comfort in my car
One last thing...Any lightening tips you can give for my Z??

RCZ 09-14-2009 10:30 PM

The HKS are good coilovers. Definitely a good choice. But if you are saying you are kind of a sissy, those are not the coilovers for you since they come with relatively high spring rates. The only coilovers I would recommend for someone who likes to keep a comfortable ride are the KW V3's. I'm sorry if I keep sounding like a fanboy, but these things have more than proven their worth to me.

Driveshaft rattle? Are you talking about clutch shudder on engagement? Nah, it shouldnt be that bad.

Lightening? Sure, get rid of as much unsprung weight as you can (weight not supported by the suspension. e.g. Wheels and brake rotors). Then take as much weight as you can from the front of the car, preferably things that are higher up. Then take weight off the rear. The car has a natural front heavy bias, which you want to try and lessen if possible...however its much easier to quickly remove weight from the rear.

I'd give you more info, but you don't own the car yet and you seem to not be too sure of what you want. You say you are a sissy and want comfort, but you want coilovers and a lighter car? Those two things don't come without a cost that is immediately deducted from the comfort column.

I want to help, but you should probably have the car first before you worry about these things..

travisjb 09-14-2009 11:40 PM

Keep givin it to em straight, RCZ! :tup:

Agree on weight comments... goal is to shift weight, not just lighten... get more weight towards the rear with battery relos etc... I pick up about 0.05 g's in left hand turns by putting a passenger in my car! :)

370zforever... what RCZ wanted to tell you but didn't because he's far too polite, is that you need to study the board a bit more... go to the technical section and sort the posts in descending order by views/posts... then read the ones with the highest volume... all your questions will be answered! have fun

RCZ, flywheel yet ?

RCZ 09-15-2009 12:15 PM

^ haha Thanks

Not yet, I think I'm going to try to do the clutch and flywheel when the motor is out for the SC install. So it shouldn't be for a few months. Everything still working well with yours?

travisjb 09-15-2009 01:07 PM

All is good... I definitely have been having a fuel starvation issue... we are discussing it over in my journal, think we have a quick fix

Flywheel is a great add - you'll be happy once you do it


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