Alignment/Corner Weight Results

DannyGT · 06-02-2009, 11:03 AM

Thumbs up to Euro Tire in NJ - top notch and extremely professional.

I gave them the factory settings and told them to configure it to a 'inbetween street and track' - I must admit the car feels so refined now...Feedback is clean and crisp, and everything just feels very balanced!

I should get the adjustables for the front and rear, as the rear is max positive at that setting but I might not have too because the car feels great as is and I'm not in any hurry to change settings very often.

This was recorded with 3/4 full tank with nothing removed from the car...In fact I think my wife left a couple of board games and her laptop bag in the car, take it for what thats worth LOL.

wstar · 06-02-2009, 11:06 AM

Was this with you in the car (or some similar load in the driver's seat)? I ask because the right side is heavier than the left, you'd think it would be the other way around if anything.

DannyGT · 06-02-2009, 11:13 AM

I believe its without anyone in the car..Really I have no idea.

He said he would do it assuming it would change for the positive when i sit in the car, so I told him my weight...
(I'm like 5'9ish and ~170)

Lets remember too that corner weighting is much more track oriented because anything from an empty gas tank to the wife sitting in the car with you can throw off corner balancing so they try to perform this with real world intentions...

Like I said, the car felt extremely poised and well balanced after all was said and done. He had to raise the rear a bit (it was evident from earlier pictures I posted) and it seems like everything has been evened out.

RCZ · 06-02-2009, 12:11 PM

I'm sorry, so you lowered it and without any adjustable control arms you ended up at -2 front -2 rear camber?

DannyGT · 06-02-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ

I'm sorry, so you lowered it and without any adjustable control arms you ended up at -2 front -2 rear camber?

Just about, yes.

The whole car was sitting a good bit lower before this, it could have been all the adjustments in raising the car that allowed him to achieve this.

azn370z · 06-02-2009, 02:10 PM

how much was the car raised after the alignment? Were the rally pictures you posted after the alignment?

DannyGT · 06-02-2009, 02:13 PM

Yes this was performed before the rally, its the reason why I did it actually! Sexy car eh

It really doesnt take much as far as I understand, it was probably all of a 1/4 to 1/2 in various spots from front to rear...

RCZ · 06-02-2009, 06:33 PM

Cool, Im getting my coilovers installed tomorrow... wish me luck as far as the alignment goes. If I can get somewhere around -2 deg front and rear I would be happy. Ideally -2.5 front, -2.0 rear.

ChrisSlicks · 06-02-2009, 08:45 PM

Weights look good.

I'm hoping for -3.0 front, -2.0 rear, but I think I'm going to need the SPC or SPL front control arms to reach that. My front tires are taking a real beating.

DannyGT · 06-02-2009, 09:33 PM

Ya these settings are really nice, but I dont think he was able to go anymore aggressive with the front without throwing off weights/height purportions of the car...Not sure.

But, I do remember him saying the rear was set to max positive so I can go more aggressive there...Maybe i'll just get the adjustable fronts for now. Who knows? I kind of like the way it is right now

ChrisSlicks · 06-02-2009, 09:53 PM

-2.0 is a good balanced compromise between street and track. If you're going to be doing a lot of track then you're going to want more up front if you can get it, the -2.0 in the rear seems to be plenty in this car from what I've seen.

jasonhoutx · 07-21-2009, 01:58 PM

I just got my alignment dialed in with close to what you have. It feels so good now.

However, I just can't get past the negative camber on the rear. I don't like a whole lot of camber. Mine is right around -2.0 on the rears and it just looks kind of ricer.

Maybe I am just looking too hard. I like the neutral camber, but I know its hard to get with wide tires/wheels and a aggressive drop like we have.

RCZ · 07-21-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

-2.0 is a good balanced compromise between street and track. If you're going to be doing a lot of track then you're going to want more up front if you can get it, the -2.0 in the rear seems to be plenty in this car from what I've seen.

Thats what I'm running at. We did .05 toe in rear which is giving me more stability, but turn in feels a little more dull than it should. Have plans to go a little more aggressive next alignment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonhoutx

I just got my alignment dialed in with close to what you have. It feels so good now.

However, I just can't get past the negative camber on the rear. I don't like a whole lot of camber. Mine is right around -2.0 on the rears and it just looks kind of ricer.

Maybe I am just looking too hard. I like the neutral camber, but I know its hard to get with wide tires/wheels and a aggressive drop like we have.

-2 shouldnt look that ricerish, in fact you should be able to see THAT much of it. I think you are probably just looking too hard and seeing what you want to see. I think -2 looks perfectly fine on mine

DannyGT · 07-21-2009, 04:04 PM

I 100% agree with RCZ, not ricer at all!

jasonhoutx · 07-21-2009, 06:23 PM

ricer is too harsh of a word. It's just off too me. I am looking into it too much I guess.

Question. I have the SPC alignment kit, but when I went in for the alignment. The rear left toe was WAY off (1.10) and they said couldn't adjust anymore. The toe adjustment was at its max. They then adjusted the camber to around -2.2 and the toe came back to acceptable range (.5). Is that common? They locked it in at that range.

I took it to a Nissan dealer and had the GTR tech do it all and he said everything is good now.

06-02-2009, 11:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Alignment/Corner Weight Results Thumbs up to Euro Tire in NJ - top notch and extremely professional. I gave them the factory settings and told them to configure it to a 'inbetween street and track' - I must admit the car feels so refined now...Feedback is clean and crisp, and everything just feels very balanced! I should get the adjustables for the front and rear, as the rear is max positive at that setting but I might not have too because the car feels great as is and I'm not in any hurry to change settings very often. This was recorded with 3/4 full tank with nothing removed from the car...In fact I think my wife left a couple of board games and her laptop bag in the car, take it for what thats worth LOL. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold) Last edited by DannyGT; 06-02-2009 at 11:09 AM.

06-02-2009, 11:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Was this with you in the car (or some similar load in the driver's seat)? I ask because the right side is heavier than the left, you'd think it would be the other way around if anything. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

06-02-2009, 11:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	I believe its without anyone in the car..Really I have no idea. He said he would do it assuming it would change for the positive when i sit in the car, so I told him my weight... (I'm like 5'9ish and ~170) Lets remember too that corner weighting is much more track oriented because anything from an empty gas tank to the wife sitting in the car with you can throw off corner balancing so they try to perform this with real world intentions... Like I said, the car felt extremely poised and well balanced after all was said and done. He had to raise the rear a bit (it was evident from earlier pictures I posted) and it seems like everything has been evened out. __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold) Last edited by DannyGT; 06-02-2009 at 11:27 AM.

06-02-2009, 02:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 489	how much was the car raised after the alignment? Were the rally pictures you posted after the alignment? __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

06-02-2009, 02:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Yes this was performed before the rally, its the reason why I did it actually! Sexy car eh It really doesnt take much as far as I understand, it was probably all of a 1/4 to 1/2 in various spots from front to rear... __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold) Last edited by DannyGT; 06-02-2009 at 05:02 PM.

06-02-2009, 12:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	I'm sorry, so you lowered it and without any adjustable control arms you ended up at -2 front -2 rear camber?

06-02-2009, 06:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	Cool, Im getting my coilovers installed tomorrow... wish me luck as far as the alignment goes. If I can get somewhere around -2 deg front and rear I would be happy. Ideally -2.5 front, -2.0 rear.

06-02-2009, 08:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Weights look good. I'm hoping for -3.0 front, -2.0 rear, but I think I'm going to need the SPC or SPL front control arms to reach that. My front tires are taking a real beating.

06-02-2009, 09:33 PM	#10 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	Ya these settings are really nice, but I dont think he was able to go anymore aggressive with the front without throwing off weights/height purportions of the car...Not sure. But, I do remember him saying the rear was set to max positive so I can go more aggressive there...Maybe i'll just get the adjustable fronts for now. Who knows? I kind of like the way it is right now __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

06-02-2009, 09:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	-2.0 is a good balanced compromise between street and track. If you're going to be doing a lot of track then you're going to want more up front if you can get it, the -2.0 in the rear seems to be plenty in this car from what I've seen.

07-21-2009, 01:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
jasonhoutx Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 70 Drives: 09 Silver 370z A7 Rep Power: 15	I just got my alignment dialed in with close to what you have. It feels so good now. However, I just can't get past the negative camber on the rear. I don't like a whole lot of camber. Mine is right around -2.0 on the rears and it just looks kind of ricer. Maybe I am just looking too hard. I like the neutral camber, but I know its hard to get with wide tires/wheels and a aggressive drop like we have. __________________ 09 370z Turing w/ Nav - AT - Brilliant Silver Venaci VS124 Wheels: [19x9.5F & 19x10.5R] w/ [265/35-F & 305/30-R] - Suspension: [KW V3's] & [SPC front/rear camber kit]

07-21-2009, 04:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
DannyGT Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 919 Drives: 370Z (SOLD) Rep Power: 279	I 100% agree with RCZ, not ricer at all! __________________ Performance GTM Stage 1 SC, GTM Res.Test Pipes, Invidia Gemini Exhaust, GTM HD Oil Cooler Wheels & Suspension AME Tracer TM02's 19x9.5F 19x10.5R w/ 265x35F & 305x30R, Hotchkis Sways, BC (BR) Racing Coilovers (Car Sold)

07-21-2009, 06:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
jasonhoutx Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 70 Drives: 09 Silver 370z A7 Rep Power: 15	ricer is too harsh of a word. It's just off too me. I am looking into it too much I guess. Question. I have the SPC alignment kit, but when I went in for the alignment. The rear left toe was WAY off (1.10) and they said couldn't adjust anymore. The toe adjustment was at its max. They then adjusted the camber to around -2.2 and the toe came back to acceptable range (.5). Is that common? They locked it in at that range. I took it to a Nissan dealer and had the GTR tech do it all and he said everything is good now. __________________ 09 370z Turing w/ Nav - AT - Brilliant Silver Venaci VS124 Wheels: [19x9.5F & 19x10.5R] w/ [265/35-F & 305/30-R] - Suspension: [KW V3's] & [SPC front/rear camber kit]

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