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Originally Posted by dmhenderson Eh. He's doing something that needed to be done. Brave guy. Brave? :-/

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Old 07-03-2013, 08:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Eh. He's doing something that needed to be done.
Brave guy.
Brave? :-/
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Brave? :-/
Pretty much. When the government turns on its people this is what it takes.
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Pretty much. When the government turns on its people this is what it takes.
Steve, I hope you know me well enough to trust what I say. That said, you shouldn't listen to everything to see on the media (since when are they out to tell the truth, anyway?).

Snowden is a giant sack of douche with a value less than that of a bag of smashed a$$holes, and he deserves to hang. That's all I've got to say about that.
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Steve, I hope you know me well enough to trust what I say. That said, you shouldn't listen to everything to see on the media (since when are they out to tell the truth, anyway?).

Snowden is a giant sack of douche with a value less than that of a bag of smashed a$$holes, and he deserves to hang. That's all I've got to say about that.
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(I don't follow the media)
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Steve, I hope you know me well enough to trust what I say. That said, you shouldn't listen to everything to see on the media (since when are they out to tell the truth, anyway?).

Snowden is a giant sack of douche with a value less than that of a bag of smashed a$$holes, and he deserves to hang. That's all I've got to say about that.
The media isn't really siding with him.
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The media isn't really siding with him.
I haven't been following the media too much either. Regardless, the media is still going to report what they think they know and the blitherings he spouts out (true, or false), with no vetting done at all (because they can't, of course). That is modern media: report first, vet later.

So my point remains the same.
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I haven't been following the media too much either. Regardless, the media is still going to report what they think they know and the blitherings he spouts out (true, or false), with no vetting done at all (because they can't, of course). That is modern media: report first, vet later.

So my point remains the same.
He fact-checks out pretty well so far IMO. To be honest he's been pulling his punches.
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He fact-checks out pretty well so far IMO. To be honest he's been pulling his punches.
So what are the facts, then? Understand, if you truly knew the facts, you wouldn't be allowed to post them here anyway...right?
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Brave? :-/
I'd say giving up a $200k a year job, his citizenship, a beautiful girlfriend that he'll likely never see again and his general sense of safety to speak up against something he thought was wrong is pretty brave.
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I'd say giving up a $200k a year job, a beautiful girlfriend that he'll likely never see again, his general sense of safety and nationality to speak up against something he thought was wrong is pretty brave.
You haven't been paying attention, then. I don't mean to be blunt, but the "$200k a year job" (LAUGHABLY high for a BAH contractor that is only a network admin, btw - he really only made about $120K which is shit-money for a BAH contractor in Hawaii. Here, that'd be something like 80-90K in this area...which is beans for them) has been disproven already.

Not even going to touch the beautiful girlfriend part lol.

Again, you are assuming everything he says is even true. How do you know? Maybe I'll go to the media tomorrow and say I'm truly a robot made by the government powered by a cold-fusion heart. You should see my robot grip! You'll believe me too, right? :-/
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Again, you are assuming everything he says is even true. How do you know? Maybe I'll go to the media tomorrow and say I'm truly a robot made by the government powered by a cold-fusion heart. You should see my robot grip! You'll believe me too, right? :-/
You saw what he leaked, right?
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You haven't been paying attention, then. I don't mean to be blunt, but the "$200k a year job" (LAUGHABLY high for a BAH contractor that is only a network admin, btw - he really only made about $120K which is shit-money for a BAH contractor in Hawaii. Here, that'd be something like 80-90K in this area...which is beans for them) has been disproven already.

Not even going to touch the beautiful girlfriend part lol.

Again, you are assuming everything he says is even true. How do you know? Maybe I'll go to the media tomorrow and say I'm truly a robot made by the government powered by a cold-fusion heart. You should see my robot grip! You'll believe me too, right? :-/


"Network Admin" can mean a lot of things. It's a very adaptable position title. Ive seen guys with that title that setup network equipment all day and ive seen guys with that title who do intrusive monitoring and network penetration stuff. Just saying...
200k is very likely for the latter example.
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You saw what he leaked, right?
Yes, I sure did. And I do know where you've moved to over the past 2 years.

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"Network Admin" can mean a lot of things. It's a very adaptable position title. Ive seen guys with that title that setup network equipment all day and ive seen guys with that title who do intrusive monitoring and network penetration stuff. Just saying...
200k is very likely for the latter example.
Must...resist...posting something....sarcastic...about not knowing...anything...about networking skills...or their relative pay amounts...

*sigh* Don't even know why I even mentioned everything. Obviously, the public knows everything, and he is a national hero (lol).
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*sigh* Don't even know why I even mentioned everything. Obviously, the public knows everything, and he is a national hero (lol).
You're just jealous that no one publicly appreciates your... "leaks."
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Yes, I sure did. And I do know where you've moved to over the past 2 years.



Must...resist...posting something....sarcastic...about not knowing...anything...about networking skills...or their relative pay amounts...

*sigh* Don't even know why I even mentioned everything. Obviously, the public knows everything, and he is a national hero (lol).
It's compartmentalized info. Unless you have hands in SIGINT you're unlikely to know more than the average person

I'm curious...what specifically do you contest?
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