MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

Still your fault.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

bbuuttt u also have those pro guys doing it... so its gotta count for something!

If we can build the karts to all have the same specs, and then balance the weights, sure. But until they're at the same gearing/tire/brake life, it won't matter. They're moody... Like you said yourself.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You're hearing what you want to hear. No one is discrediting you. Quit being stubborn.

I'm not being stubborn, I'm taking what is said, and repeating it. It's not my words.

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

well if it makes u feel better.... i did horrible...

and if i had the weight advantage... im sure... i still woulda done horrible

I thought you were in the top 3 in your group??

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Still your fault.

I knew somehow you guys would blame it on me...

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

What gauntlet did I throw?

Yes I've karted plenty of times before, that's why I enjoy doing it.

How is it illogical? If the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten me. So it's perfectly logical. So it's not A lightweight or B skill. It's a combination of Both.

I'm not saying weight doesn't matter at all. I'm saying that you point me out as being "lightweight" when there were lighter people that were not surpassing my times. So it's not Just about weight.

I would say Josh was around my weight class, and I assume with the events you guys have done, he has a lot more "racing/High performance" driving than me. Yes I know karting is a whole nother realm, but the same ideals still apply.

You could have then at any time.

Yes, most of the cars we ran had trap doors on the left side to add ballast. That's what all the super cool douches were doing in the racing suits so they were as close to equal weight as they could be.

So what you are saying is, I'm fatter than you, and on my very first time out karting EVER, I was only 1 second slower for my fastest lap, and showing consistent improvement every single time out?

Now I understand :-)

And yes, if the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten you potentially, assuming their skill was up to snuff. But they didn't. Does that mean weight doesn't matter, however? Nope. You are making the assumption that just because we have done HPDE that we are automatically excellent kart drivers? Lol. ****, my first run, my best lap was only 70 seconds. Second? 66.87. Third? 64.6. Final? 64.1. Next session would be in the 63's, I promise you.

Your AVERAGE speed was a full 3 seconds faster than almost everyone your FIRST run.

What I just proved is, in only 4 runs, I was able to consistently drop my times each time out (both average, and fastest lap). THAT is where my HPDE came in handy.

This is about the same as us both hitting Shenandoah, with my experience against you fresh out for your first HPDE. Except you'd need to close the gap between you and myself for lap times and consistency within only 4 HPDE sessions. That is practically impossible and I'd never expect you to do it, nor would I say anything about it lol.

So what Steve and I are saying is, you are barking up the wrong tree here, and for now that black flag will just have to haunt you :-P

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MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

For ***** and giggles,

the RX7 carts are rougly 240lbs with 9 hp.

With a 150 lb driver that's 43.3 lbs per HP

With a 250lb driver that's 54.44 lbs per hp.

Not to mention the braking and cornering advantage with less weight to hustle around.

That just means the fatter person has to drive better. A lot better. Lol

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

That just means the fatter person has to drive better. A lot better. Lol

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Yeah but with a skilled light driver (aka Chris) you can't make that time up. For 250lbs I drove the f*ck out of that kart.

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:24 PM

A little derailment here, looking at our times... I would really love to see some footage of the drivers running sub 1 minute times. I want to see what lines they take lol.

..:: Club Speed Top Time ::..

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:24 PM

They take the #YOLOSWAG line.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Never said we'd be better. We just said it would be a close race.

I think you're taking offense because you think we're trying to discredit your speed saying its only due to your weight. That's not true at all.

Troof. Nobody said you were driving badly, ever.

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StangerGT · 04-29-2013, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I thought you were in the top 3 in your group??

eh... i went from 6 to 4... and the final combined race was a disaster for me... for a few reasons... lolz

best time was 66.1

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah but with a skilled light driver (aka Chris) you can't make that time up. For 250lbs I drove the f*ck out of that kart.

I know, I was being sarcastic. He obviously had some skill. So do we, but we (or at least, I?) Are nubs at karting. Nobody is a pro day one, it's how quickly you improve that counts, imho.

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I know, I was being sarcastic. He obviously had some skill. So do we, but we (or at least, I?) Are nubs at karting. Nobody is a pro day one, it's how quickly you improve that counts, imho.

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I had never been in one of these karts until our race Saturday.

Like you, my knowledge of race craft and basic race car physics is what helped me improve with each session. Just need more seat time... and must add lightness.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa

A little derailment here, looking at our times... I would really love to see some footage of the drivers running sub 1 minute times. I want to see what lines they take lol.

..:: Club Speed Top Time ::..

Just so we're clear, those are AVG times, not fastest lap times correct??

aniceh · 04-29-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Puhlease. Weight matters.

When we run with ballast and equal race weights we'll see who the best racer is.

Not enough

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