MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Coulda, shoulda, but didn't :-)

Helps when you weigh 50lbs wet, too haha. How much DO you weigh, anyway? Besides, time trials aren't racing, you know that...

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I won every event in our group, including the "race". So not even going by time trials number either considering that lap was in the last (overcrowded) race.

And weight doesn't even matter considering I wasn't the lightest out there... So if you want to use that excuse, even I shouldn't have won.

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 08:47 PM

Puhlease. Weight matters.

When we run with ballast and equal race weights we'll see who the best racer is.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 08:52 PM

If that's the case, I can think of at least 5 people who should have been at the top of the running order based on weight, that were no where near it... Hmmm...

And those who have a lot more experience that were not either... Hmmmm

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I won every event in our group, including the "race". So not even going by time trials number either considering that lap was in the last (overcrowded) race.

And weight doesn't even matter considering I wasn't the lightest out there... So if you want to use that excuse, even I shouldn't have won.

Lol, you threw the gauntlet down, light weight, don't expect I won't throw it right back :-)

Weight matters EVERYTHING in those buckets, what on earth are you talking about? Have you been to SPK or karted before, or was this your first time?

Just because you weren't the lightest out there doesn't mean the lighter people were quite as competitive as you or I were, so your comparison is illogical...

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

If that's the case, I can think of at least 5 people who should have been at the top of the running order based on weight, that were no where near it... Hmmm...

And those who have a lot more experience that were not either... Hmmmm

No, fgt, no one is saying you don't lack skill. You ARE fast. But don't think for a second weight didn't matter. If I wasn't 100lbs up on you you bet your *** we would have been wheel to wheel. You were easily 10 mph faster than me on the straights.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

If that's the case, I can think of at least 5 people who should have been at the top of the running order based on weight, that were no where near it... Hmmm...

And those who have a lot more experience that were not either... Hmmmm

Weight plus skill kid. It's not JUST weight, jeeze.

Who had a lot more experience than you, and were lighter than you?

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 08:54 PM

Anyways, ballast next time. Then we'll see what's up.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

No, fgt, no one is saying you don't lack skill. You ARE fast. But don't think for a second weight didn't matter. If I wasn't 100lbs up on you you bet your *** we would have been wheel to wheel. You were easily 10 mph faster than me on the straights.

Power to weight ratio doesn't matter, Steve. Especially in a motor that when bogged, makes **** for power. You shh now.

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Power to weight ratio doesn't matter, Steve. Especially in a motor that when bogged, makes **** for power. You shh now.

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So when Jay rode with me in my S2000... the slowness was all in my head?

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Anyways, ballast next time. Then we'll see what's up.

So they even do ballast there? I didn't see anything for that. Makes sense though.

*straps milk jugs to car*

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MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So when Jay rode with me in my S2000... the slowness was all in my head?

The lighter the vehicle and the less power it makes means weight means even LESS! Just MOAR DOWN FORCE!

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

So they even do ballast there? I didn't see anything for that. Makes sense though.

*straps milk jugs to car*

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They had tons of weights in the race control office next to the track. If you watched the "pro" drivers they would all add their requisite ballast to their karts before going on track.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Lol, you threw the gauntlet down, light weight, don't expect I won't throw it right back :-)

Weight matters EVERYTHING in those buckets, what on earth are you talking about? Have you been to SPK or karted before, or was this your first time?

Just because you weren't the lightest out there doesn't mean the lighter people were quite as competitive as you or I were, so your comparison is illogical...

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What gauntlet did I throw?

Yes I've karted plenty of times before, that's why I enjoy doing it.

How is it illogical? If the lighter person pushed more, they would have beaten me. So it's perfectly logical. So it's not A lightweight or B skill. It's a combination of Both.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

No, fgt, no one is saying you don't lack skill. You ARE fast. But don't think for a second weight didn't matter. If I wasn't 100lbs up on you you bet your *** we would have been wheel to wheel. You were easily 10 mph faster than me on the straights.

I'm not saying weight doesn't matter at all. I'm saying that you point me out as being "lightweight" when there were lighter people that were not surpassing my times. So it's not Just about weight.

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Weight plus skill kid. It's not JUST weight, jeeze.

Who had a lot more experience than you, and were lighter than you

I would say Josh was around my weight class, and I assume with the events you guys have done, he has a lot more "racing/High performance" driving than me. Yes I know karting is a whole nother realm, but the same ideals still apply.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Anyways, ballast next time. Then we'll see what's up.

You could have then at any time.

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

So they even do ballast there? I didn't see anything for that. Makes sense though.

*straps milk jugs to car*

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Yes, most of the cars we ran had trap doors on the left side to add ballast. That's what all the super cool douches were doing in the racing suits so they were as close to equal weight as they could be.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

They had tons of weights in the race control office next to the track. If you watched the "pro" drivers they would all add their requisite ballast to their karts before going on track.

I wasn't even watching them. Sweet, fair competition is always good.

But weight doesn't matter, so why bother.

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m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:02 PM

For ***** and giggles,

the RX7 carts are rougly 240lbs with 9 hp.

With a 150 lb driver that's 43.3 lbs per HP

With a 250lb driver that's 54.44 lbs per hp.

Not to mention the braking and cornering advantage with less weight to hustle around.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Anyways, ballast next time. Then we'll see what's up. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	For *** and giggles, the RX7 carts are rougly 240lbs with 9 hp. With a 150 lb driver that's 43.3 lbs per HP With a 250lb driver that's 54.44 lbs per hp. Not to mention the braking and cornering advantage with less weight to hustle around. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!**

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