MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:03 PM

@Chris, no one ever said the reason you were fast was only because of weight. The only reason we fast fatties couldn't keep up with you, though, is because of weight. I know I can definitely run up there with you if we had similar race weights, because we're good drivers. Same with Bobo, Ron, etc. It will be a really good race next time.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

@Chris, no one ever said the reason you were fast was only because of weight. The only reason we fast fatties couldn't keep up with you, though, is because of weight. I know I can definitely run up there with you if we had similar race weights, because we're good drivers. Same with Bobo, Ron, etc. It will be a really good race next time.

The heavier people are the only one saying I was fast because I am light(er) weight. So yeah, that's what it's sounding like.

"If we all had the same weight cars, we'd be better than you."

StangerGT · 04-29-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I won every event in our group, including the "race". So not even going by time trials number either considering that lap was in the last (overcrowded) race.

And weight doesn't even matter considering I wasn't the lightest out there... So if you want to use that excuse, even I shouldn't have won.

lol so rather than accept you're experience may be the reason you won vs some lighter people... you derail it all by saying something like weight not mattering?

in any case, there are far to many variables. Not only can there be variations in weight, but we all know no kart is alike. Some may have better tuning, more/less gas, newer tires, better brakes.

I got in one cart and the brakes were awesome... the last kart had almost nothing. You could also tell one being more *** happy then another...

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:06 PM

Only one way to settle this, lets all go to SPK right now and do night enduro race in the rain. Fgts.

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

The heavier people are the only one saying I was fast because I am light(er) weight. So yeah, that's what it's sounding like.

"If we all had the same weight cars, we'd be better than you."

Never said we'd be better. We just said it would be a close race.

I think you're taking offense because you think we're trying to discredit your speed saying its only due to your weight. That's not true at all.

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

lol so rather than accept you're experience may be the reason you won vs some lighter people... you derail it all by saying something like weight not mattering?

in any case, there are far to many variables. Not only can there be variations in weight, but we all know no kart is alike. Some may have better tuning, more/less gas, newer tires, better brakes.

I got in one cart and the brakes were awesome... the last kart had almost nothing. You could also tell one being more *** happy then another...

Agreed on the karts. 10 and 14 were good for me. 16 was complete sh!t.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

lol so rather than accept you're experience may be the reason you won vs some lighter people... you derail it all by saying something like weight not mattering?

in any case, there are far to many variables. Not only can there be variations in weight, but we all know no kart is alike. Some may have better tuning, more/less gas, newer tires, better brakes.

I got in one cart and the brakes were awesome... the last kart had almost nothing. You could also tell one being more *** happy then another...

I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm saying that other people are saying I only did "better" because I am lighter than them... Well there were people lighter than me, so by their logic, I should have not done as well...

I know all too well the truths about karting thanks to my experience with them. But you are exactly correct there, no 2 karts are the same. No matter how much you try to make the "weight factor" as balanced as you can.

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Originally Posted by Masa

Only one way to settle this, lets all go to SPK right now and do night enduro race in the rain. Fgts.

I'm down. Let's go.

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

lol so rather than accept you're experience may be the reason you won vs some lighter people... you derail it all by saying something like weight not mattering?

in any case, there are far to many variables. Not only can there be variations in weight, but we all know no kart is alike. Some may have better tuning, more/less gas, newer tires, better brakes.

I got in one cart and the brakes were awesome... the last kart had almost nothing. You could also tell one being more *** happy then another...

I wish I could have Kart 29 all day. That thing had some power! I posted my best time of 64.2 on that one lol.

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:11 PM

No one is saying you did better because of weight. I'm saying I was not up there with you because of my weight disadvantage. I know I can wheel it and can run up front in equal equipment.

Whatever, though. We'll sort it all out next time.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Never said we'd be better. We just said it would be a close race.

I think you're taking offense because you think we're trying to discredit your speed saying its only due to your weight. That's not true at all.

That's all I've heard since we left the track...

StangerGT · 04-29-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

I'm not saying it doesn't matter. I'm saying that other people are saying I only did "better" because I am lighter than them... Well there were people lighter than me, so by their logic, I should have not done as well...

I know all too well the truths about karting thanks to my experience with them. But you are exactly correct there, no 2 karts are the same. No matter how much you try to make the "weight factor" as balanced as you can.

I'm down. Let's go.

bbuuttt u also have those pro guys doing it... so its gotta count for something!

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

That's all I've heard since we left the track...

You're hearing what you want to hear. No one is discrediting you. Quit being stubborn.

Masa · 04-29-2013, 09:13 PM

Less talk, more planning for next kart session!

StangerGT · 04-29-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

That's all I've heard since we left the track...

well if it makes u feel better.... i did horrible...

and if i had the weight advantage... im sure... i still woulda done horrible

eastwest2300 · 04-29-2013, 09:16 PM

Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me...

04-29-2013, 09:03 PM	#466 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	@Chris, no one ever said the reason you were fast was only because of weight. The only reason we fast fatties couldn't keep up with you, though, is because of weight. I know I can definitely run up there with you if we had similar race weights, because we're good drivers. Same with Bobo, Ron, etc. It will be a really good race next time. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Masa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 2,237 Drives: Family Cars Rep Power: 21	Only one way to settle this, lets all go to SPK right now and do night enduro race in the rain. Fgts. m4a1mustang, XwChriswX, b1adesofcha0s and 3 others like this. __________________ BMW 340i Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

04-29-2013, 09:11 PM	#474 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	No one is saying you did better because of weight. I'm saying I was not up there with you because of my weight disadvantage. I know I can wheel it and can run up front in equal equipment. Whatever, though. We'll sort it all out next time. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

04-29-2013, 09:13 PM	#478 (permalink)
Masa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Annapolis, MD Posts: 2,237 Drives: Family Cars Rep Power: 21	Less talk, more planning for next kart session! m4a1mustang and b1adesofcha0s like this. __________________ BMW 340i Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk

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eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,023 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684552	Hey steve, I didnt start this argument, you cant blame this one on me... Z Stig likes this. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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