Oh, but honestly, f*ck you

Not with them black flagging every other car..



I sorry. :(

Thanks! :tiphat:

ok, enough for tonight. Sleep time.

Sucky - I'm finding them all day long for mine, for $30-40.

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AutoX is the best place to learn your limits safely. It requires a LOT of very quick hand movement, and handling the car in extreme situations. Excellent for learning what your car can do in evasive maneuvers, along with what will happen if you are too extreme with your inputs (be it braking, steering, or acceleration).

That sounds like just what I need.

Yeah, my lens' on amazon are More expensive than if through HJC :icon14:

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I guess something about the helmet... :ugh2:

AutoX is a good learning tool, but I hated that you had to wait there all freaking day for like 4 mins total of driving time spread throughout the day. Once I had my first track experience, I stopped caring about AutoX :p

I didn't learn to drive from AutoX or HPDE, and at my first HPDE, I was quite fast.

I learned an awful lot from video games and hooligan friends and having been taught well from the beginning. Not saying that I advise hooliganism.

Also, its relatively cheap. $50 for a day, usually.

:werd:

Probably because it's a racing helmet, and not a motorcycle helmet.

That's how you get picked up by Nissan to race for them nowadays... :icon17:

I'm not saying you should live or die by AutoX, but it's a good place to REALLY get to toss a car around relatively safely. HPDE is superior overall I believe, but both have their benefits.

:iagree:

PC sim racing and hooliganism is how I learned. I actually have an interesting theory about why I require no steering feedback whatsoever to be fast, but I'll save that for another day.

:bowrofl::bowrofl:

There's also the option of doing a hyperdrive for $50. It's just one 25 min session on the track on the same day as an HPDE event. Whichever works best for you, both are good options. I did an AutoX, then a hyperdrive, and now an HPDE. Each one was progressively more fun than the last.

Yeah that's true, I was just sharing my experience with AutoX. It's much easier since you don't have to drive all the way to freaking WV.

When you AutoX, is is broken down by driver skill level, or by car modifications?

Cause those could potentially put someone in different levels they may/may not be ready for?

Doesn't really matter. You're pretty much doing the course on your own. Different classes only matter if you're trying to compete.

At this stage of the game I will concede that I have EVERYTHING to learn, and can't afford to rule out any source of knowledge or experience.

I would like to AutoX, for the thrill of it, but I'm useless without the set lines of a track. The cones thing just doesn't work for me and I'd miss a ton of them.

You never know until you try it. I had an instructor sitting with me and he'd point out the correct way around the cones if I started to do it wrong.

I'm going to line up another HPDE at some point. I don't want to AutoX. The thrill of driving a real racing circuit is just amazing. To me, it's worth the extra coin.

What Shahid said. But, if you were COMPETING, your car would get stomped there. You have too many modications lol.

But if I do that, I won't be able to go full speed because I'm having to pay more attention to staying on course than my driving. :icon17:

:iagree: Real track ftw. Instructors and lessons and learning, then performance coaching.

Yes, I know you hate my car. :icon17:

No, really - when SCCA runs competition AutoX, the modifications you have would put you in a class SO DIFFICULT, you'd get absolutely wrecked by Miata's running 305's up front and back hahaha.

My head hurts...

Welcome to car nerd-dom.

Oh no, I completely get that bit. Which is why I wouldn't run in that class.


So basically it's setup to the fact that you can't mod first, and grow into them?

I understand why YOU do what you do, and it makes complete sense... But there is another thought pattern here. Guess thats another reason why AutoX isn't for me.

Please excuse me while I go read some of the Internal Revenue Code to lighten my mood a bit...

:icon18::bowrofl: that's bad

Haha, nice...

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Aniceh - I think the best advice for you is to try everything and see what you like best.

Chris - If you worried about going full speed, you definitely want to be on a real track instead of AutoX.

Al - I completely agree with you. Real track was so much fun, I'm sticking with just HPDE's from now on.

Let me know when you plan to go again, will you stay in the beginner group, or move up to the next level now that you've done one before?

Ordered my replacement GoPro housing, Newegg ftw, cheapest @ $39.99 shipped.

It's not my choice. I will be in the beginner level until the instructor thinks I'm good enough to move up. Probably won't be going till fall at the earliest.