Pretty much.

Like I said earlier, be ruthless. Be as clean as you efficiently can.

And always remember, 8 tires are better than 4. :tup:

I'm serious, though. If someone is slowing me down they are getting the chrome horn. IDGAF.

S'what I'm sayin! Driving fast takes practice, practice, practice. All of these things add skill in some areas. Karting and AutoX are fantastic for control. HPDE/RDE are great for leaning what a "line" is, along with alternate lines. Do all of them, and you get very good, very fast.

And you too will get a :shakes head: "talking to" from Panama Jack. :ugh2:

I definitely see HPDE in my future. Most likely in the fall.

You know... there is a closer indoor track we all could go to in Dulles...

Precisely. And you met and exceeded the limits of the kart, so this really is the same as an off-track excursion doing the real deal. In that situation, you'd be made to come back in to the pits, too. So I feel the black flag in this situation is appropriate.

Now, I don't know what others were getting flagged for - I'd love to see footage from someone who DID get flagged, like Josh, but he had no camera. I CAN tell you, however, that I was driving quite aggressively in my traffic management, and I never even got a hint of a black flag, so aggressive driving wasn't it. I never once bumped another car, nor did I ever lose control of my car.

I wonder if they will let us beat on each other.




And also make contact with the karts.

I've never seen a "good" indoor track. Passing on those may as well use the "wedge" maneuver.

I didn't bump anyone either. I wanted to bump. :(

I bumped two people and was driving aggressive. No black flag for me either.

Slide job

Good for you :) Keep me posted if you have questions.

I was super aggressive but never got to bump anyone. I did force some 3 wide moves in T1 that probably shouldn't have worked, but did.

No more HPDE's planned for a while. Maybe in the fall.

The problem with Indoor tracks is they will most likely be Electric karts, and although its 100% torque instantly, tracks are usually shorter, cars are OFTEN governed, and the weight factors you fatties are complaining about, is even More prevalent. :p But I'd still be up for going.

Ok, well then why didn't I get black flagged when I couldn't avoid hitting Dana when she spun out? I actually made contact with another car that time... Hmmm

Yeah I don't have any experience with any of the indoor tracks around here.
All the ones I have been to were back out west in CA. Those indoor karts were gas not electric.

I'm sure they deemed that unavoidable contact.

T1/T2 were PRIME passing opportunities. As was the long T3, because there were SO many lines for that corner!

That is a bit different. She spun, you didnt. I was following a steady, relatively predictable line, and you spun out behind me trying to do an early turn-in to overtake me. If there's one VERY dangerous move to do in racing, it's a hot, early turn-in.

It was just bad. That's all.

I think this was the basis for some of the frustration. Spinning and hitting the tires are potentially dangerous, but so is bumping. If you got bumped and then spun out or hit the wall, you could get a black flag. I guess that's just life, though. Some stuff gets called, some stuff doesn't. We just gotta enjoy the times it doesn't. ;)

I was following your line, we got to the traffic sooner than expected. I wasn't going to cut in on you when we already had traffic to get around.

Yep I did a lot of passing there. T1 was a little difficult to setup with the little kink before the braking zone, but still doable. More often than not I would set people up by getting a killer run off 2 then making it no contest into 3. A good pass starts on corner exit :)

9 and 15 worked pretty well too.

Hmpf, I can honestly say I don't remember the traffic at that turn at all, when it happened. Your safest bet would have been to hang back however, and see how I dealt with the traffic, and try to take an alternate line.

Thanks, man! I figure I can get a few cruises in over the summer and better learn where I'm the limiting factor in driving experiences, then have someone teach me to take it to the next level when it's a bit cooler out.

Yes, getting a run off of T2 worked amazing well.

I was originally taking T3 verrrry wide, but I started to tighten it up a bit, and it saved me some time. T1 and T2, when I nailed it, felt so good. But I was usually a little off for T1 and that usually ruined my run out of T2.

They were there. That's what I was trying to do, but they were going slower in the turn than I (we'd) thought so when you slowed down, it was chain reaction.

NO NO NO! Do NOT learn your limits on cruises! Trust me. Save that for HPDE and AutoX!!

Also, I dunno if it was with Bobo, steve, or someone else, but about Replacement/Tinted Lenses for the helmets being expensive, this is what I meant:

Accessories | HJC MOTORSPORTS $70 for the smoked one for my helmet

Meh, wish I had my film from that damn run. It was a fun race, and I was looking forward to going back and forth with you. I honestly wondered what had happened after I never saw you again, and didnt know until I saw Jon's video. Ah well, for next time :-p

I know that feel. You kind of had to blow 1 to get the run off two down, but when you got it right it was bliss. There were a lot of "throw away" corners there which always makes it difficult. It's hard for a lot of people to conceptualize "throwing away" a corner.

I really want to go back ASAP because after coming back and studying the map some more I know what I need to do to improve even further, aside from just adding lightness.

Yeah, I was pissed we were in different groups, and your group (seemingly) didn't have much challenge for you. That's why when we got the last race, which I'm sorry,
having ran several events myself, is WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE, was stupid.

The top 5 from both groups idea would have fared much better, but I digress.


I look forward to going at it with you again. And doing some karting as well. :driving:

Ok. :)

This is why I keep you guys around. What would I do without you? :p

I've seen stuff on the HPDE, but not AutoX. Tell me more...

Where is a map?

:iagree:

Driving on cruises and on a track are two completely different worlds.

Oh, so that's how this is going to go.

Now errybody gon' get Corvettes? GOD DAMN IT :mad:

:stirthepot:

A packed field is fun. I just wish we were closer on time so we could have had a huge group running together. 2-3 wide and passing every lap would have been a blast (if we could keep from wrecking.)