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dmhenderson 03-17-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218578)
Ill agree with you on the brand of tires being horrible but the rest is honest. I guess ill just have to prove more points when I run square 275's stretched.

Yeah I dunno. I wouldn't show it with those tires on it but that's just me. For all I know they were doing ~sick burnouts~ with those tires 5 minutes after that picture was taken so they may well serve a purpose.

dmhenderson 03-17-2013 10:39 PM

In other news: I have sent up emergency flares to every single car-related group I belong to on facebook and twitter looking for Nismo RC front brake ducts. Bulletproof told me "lol no" because there were so few RC cars made. Car Love DC has taken up the cause for me so I have hope yet. Further bulletins as events warrant.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 10:42 PM

It took me 2 minutes to find 2 very good threads...Some of the info isn't 100% correct but it mostly is.

Slightly stretched tires = stiffer sidewalls? - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB

Do stretched tires compromise grip/handling? - R3VLimited Forums


There is a reason Formula D cars run stretched rears. They want the most grip possible in the rear and the front to be loose. Im sure a few of you will think im bullshiting that last bit but...I cant find it now but there is a whole video on youtube from Drive talking about a 350z drifter with 700whp running 0 camber and stretched tires on the rear.

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson (Post 2218588)
Neat, they're NHRA.

Haha, right? They totally turn left....at the end of the drag strip.


"JL Audio box with 2 10″ Speakers" - Nuff said.

"19×8.5 and 19×12 DPE CS5v1 wheels in Matte Black
225/35/19 and 265/35/19 Nankang NS-II Tires" -If you want to tell me that rocking 265's on 12" wheels is "good" stretch? C'mon.

"K&N Cold Air Intake" - This is a shop car?

This is a show car man. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not meant to actually go fast. It's meant to look cool.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218601)
Haha, right? They totally turn left....at the end of the drag strip.


"JL Audio box with 2 10″ Speakers" - Nuff said.

"19×8.5 and 19×12 DPE CS5v1 wheels in Matte Black
225/35/19 and 265/35/19 Nankang NS-II Tires" -If you want to tell me that rocking 265's on 12" wheels is "good" stretch? C'mon.

"K&N Cold Air Intake" - This is a shop car?

This is a show car man. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not meant to actually go fast. It's meant to look cool.


Because you cant have a 2nd set of track wheels with trackable tires right?

A set for show and a set for go. UNHEARD OF!!!

I was mistaken its not a shop car but it was built by TeamElite

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218599)
It took me 2 minutes to find 2 very good threads...Some of the info isn't 100% correct but it mostly is.

Slightly stretched tires = stiffer sidewalls? - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB

Do stretched tires compromise grip/handling? - R3VLimited Forums


There is a reason Formula D cars run stretched rears. They want the most grip possible in the rear and the front to be loose. Im sure a few of you will think im bullshiting that last bit but...I cant find it now but there is a whole video on youtube from Drive talking about a 350z drifter with 700whp running 0 camber and stretched tires on the rear.

:icon08:

I don't even know what to say right now.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218619)
:icon08:

I don't even know what to say right now.

You don't have to believe me. After all its just an opinion..just don't knock it til you try it.

dmhenderson 03-17-2013 10:55 PM

Cody/Steve anyone else reading this, if you have any idea where I can chase down those RC ducts please let me know. Usually things like this happen because someone knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who does a thing etc so any help would be appreciated.

I thought I had this locked down a week ago and the two solid leads I had evaporated :/

I really wanted to get those things installed prior to P&S

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218604)
Because you cant have a 2nd set of track wheels with trackable tires right?

A set for show and a set for go. UNHEARD OF!!!

I was mistaken its not a shop car but it was built by TeamElite

OK, but we are talking about the wheels and tires on the car RIGHT NOW.

Those are absolute junk, and that was my point. You were defending that these tires are actually great tires and the stretch is totally optimal. We never talked about running multiple sets of wheels/tires.

Regardless, I want to meet this owner, and I'm going to ask him what his best times were at Summit Point in THIS CAR, and I'll wager to guess he'll chuckle and say, "No, this is just for show man".

But, if you decide to rock some stretched tires like he's running, and then think you're going to hit the track like that, tell me how that goes at the tech inspection :tiphat:

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218623)
You don't have to believe me. After all its just an opinion..just don't knock it til you try it.

You posted up a thread on some forum I'd never even heard of, posted by a fully stanced out VW. Right.

Also, a Scion FR-S forum by someone who was clueless, and the person who responded replied back with saying that the tire that'd fit a 7.5" wheel optimally COULD fit an 8" wheel. I can BUY that, because that's such a mild stretch, you could confuse it for OEM. But we arent talking a tire that's designed to fit a 9.5-10" wheel, stretched over a 12" wheel.

I'm trying to save you headache here, because if you truly intend to HPDE on stretched tires, it's not going to go well for you.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218630)
OK, but we are talking about the wheels and tires on the car RIGHT NOW.

Those are absolute junk, and that was my point. You were defending that these tires are actually great tires and the stretch is totally optimal. We never talked about running multiple sets of wheels/tires.

Regardless, I want to meet this owner, and I'm going to ask him what his best times were at Summit Point in THIS CAR, and I'll wager to guess he'll chuckle and say, "No, this is just for show man".

But, if you decide to rock some stretched tires like he's running, and then think you're going to hit the track like that, tell me how that goes at the tech inspection :tiphat:

Did I ever specify that I was talking 100% about those EXACT tires? :ugh2: Pretty sure I didn't. I also already said the tires were ****. I still say Stretch is good. The specs listed certainly are on the other side of "good stretch".

And no I wouldn't track on that stretch or those tires but thanks for the sweet tip bro.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218636)
You posted up a thread on some forum I'd never even heard of, posted by a fully stanced out VW. Right.

Also, a Scion FR-S forum by someone who was clueless, and the person who responded replied back with saying that the tire that'd fit a 7.5" wheel optimally COULD fit an 8" wheel. I can BUY that, because that's such a mild stretch, you could confuse it for OEM. But we arent talking a tire that's designed to fit a 9.5-10" wheel, stretched over a 12" wheel.

I'm trying to save you headache here, because if you truly intend to HPDE on stretched tires, it's not going to go well for you.

Ive already said that those tires were crap. All Im doing is defending stretch in general.

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 11:07 PM

I think I see our confusion. I said that "that GT3 is doing it right"

I didn't mean race spec stretch....I just meant that it was stretching right for style. my bad :/

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218641)
Did I ever specify that I was talking 100% about those EXACT tires? :ugh2: Pretty sure I didn't. I also already said the tires were ****. I still say Stretch is good. The specs listed certainly are on the other side of "good stretch".

And no smart *** I wouldn't track on that stretch or those tires but thanks for the sweet tip bro.

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Keep in mind there is a very fine line between proper stretch and over stretching. But that GT3 IS doing it right.
^--You said it, right there--^

I was talking about the Porsche in the photo, AS IT STANDS. When you say it's doing it right, I'm not going to assume it's any different than all of the information that we know right now, which is that he apparently gives no f-cks about grip on his show wheels. You cant defend a car based off of nothing more than it was made by some group called TeamElite - you need to say, "Oh, yeah, those tires blow ***! They have some super sick 18" wheels with Toyo R-Comps hidden for their time attacks!" Until then, it's a 650 HP Porsche (assuming he's even got it F/I now, considering in your own write-up back in September, he was still N/A) with crappy tires that have a contact patch smaller than the 370Z's sport package rears.

Changing a tire from the "optimal" for a wheel of one size isn't going to handle much different on a wheel that is a whole 0.5" wider. I wouldn't even define that as "stretched".

MightyBobo 03-17-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218646)
I think I see our confusion. I said that "that GT3 is doing it right"

I didn't mean race spec stretch....I just meant that it was stretching right for style. my bad :/

Alright, this makes more sense now :-p

CALL OFF THE TROOPS! CEASE FIRE! CEASE FIRE!

In that case, yes, the Porsche looks good.

b1adesofcha0s 03-17-2013 11:14 PM

:wtf2:

MyKindaGuise 03-17-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218660)
Alright, this makes more sense now :-p

CALL OFF THE TROOPS! CEASE FIRE! CEASE FIRE!

In that case, yes, the Porsche looks good.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:


LMAO I was legit getting mad. I had to go back and reread my posts. And then I saw it... :facepalm:

aniceh 03-17-2013 11:32 PM

Aww, group hug!

ZCarMan 03-18-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218284)
Any interior shots of that GT3?

No, I didn't think to take any interior photos.

ZCarMan 03-18-2013 05:33 AM

Hey, I'm so glad that my photos stirred up the pot! LOL Then again, I'm sure some of us took some time to read up on the stretched tire topic a bit. This is definitely a part of the show car scene for several of the car groups that attended yesterday and all over. Large car club groups attended such as Team Elite Performance and they won for best participation by a club. Lee, the guy with the beastly Vette was part of that group which was all over my area, but when they saw me parking by them, Lee came over and said to me, "Nice Z car" and he mentioned the National G Club, some of whom I've met at other events. We shook hands and started BSing about cars, it was all good. When he started that thing and gave it the goose, holy crap was that thing loud! And the crowds started forming around it.

Anyhow, it was a good chance for me to meet some other car enthusiasts and spend some time seeing cars I'm not used to seeing much.

StangerGT 03-18-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MyKindaGuise (Post 2218550)
You need to work on your google-fu sir. Its all around. Really big on the Miata forums and those guys are track nuts. I am 100% serious.


Also like I said. The car belongs to a very well known shop. Pretty sure they have a bit more experience than any of on here...

lol... all I have to say is... Drilled/slotted rotors are all around as well. its like the blind leading the blind with that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218601)
Haha, right? They totally turn left....at the end of the drag strip.


"JL Audio box with 2 10″ Speakers" - Nuff said.

"19×8.5 and 19×12 DPE CS5v1 wheels in Matte Black
225/35/19 and 265/35/19 Nankang NS-II Tires" -If you want to tell me that rocking 265's on 12" wheels is "good" stretch? C'mon.

"K&N Cold Air Intake" - This is a shop car?

This is a show car man. Nothing more, nothing less. It's not meant to actually go fast. It's meant to look cool.

and 265 on 12's? sweet mother. i have 275 on 10's and think its pushing it...

StangerGT 03-18-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2218660)
Alright, this makes more sense now :-p

CALL OFF THE TROOPS! CEASE FIRE! CEASE FIRE!

In that case, yes, the Porsche looks good.

rgr :p

shadoquad 03-18-2013 08:17 AM

I don't really care how people want to modify their cars. It only has to please one person: themselves.

Life's too short to worry about who is doing what to their own car.

eastwest2300 03-18-2013 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2218974)
I don't really care how people want to modify their cars. It only has to please one person: themselves.

Life's too short to worry about who is doing what to their own car.

:iagree:

StangerGT 03-18-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2218974)
I don't really care how people want to modify their cars. It only has to please one person: themselves.

Life's too short to worry about who is doing what to their own car.

thats fine and all... but often times what results is the spread of misinformation... example: the entire ricer movement.

You can make a car look like a race car if you want... but while showboating it, if you make crap up or give people "advice"... thats what becomes annoying.

eastwest2300 03-18-2013 08:49 AM

I have a race car, its called a Honda S2000... Im just kidding. :facepalm::icon17:

StangerGT 03-18-2013 08:54 AM

One good example of the nonsense...

Brake Tech - Brake Rotors and Track Use

"Slotted, drilled or dimpled rotors offered as OEM replacements should not be considered appropriate for high-speed track use.

While grooved, drilled and slotted rotors offer an enhanced appearance and add some resistance to the boundary layer of gasses that can build up between the pad and rotor, they are not designed to withstand the extreme temperatures that are produced on the racetrack. If they are used on the track, it is very important that the rotors be carefully inspected and should not be driven on if even minor signs of deterioration are seen. Note, too, that if these products are used on the track they are not warrantable."

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...50/6days-2.jpg

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2218991)
thats fine and all... but often times what results is the spread of misinformation... example: the entire ricer movement.

You can make a car look like a race car if you want... but while showboating it, if you make crap up or give people "advice"... thats what becomes annoying.

:iagree: x1000

"To each his own" is a fine mantra, but not when we allow misinformation to spread easily. Gotta be careful sometimes, and it certainly helps to qualify a blanket statement with detail. :tup:

shadoquad 03-18-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2218991)
thats fine and all... but often times what results is the spread of misinformation... example: the entire ricer movement.

You can make a car look like a race car if you want... but while showboating it, if you make crap up or give people "advice"... thats what becomes annoying.

I didn't see where this Porche owner spread info? Did I miss that post :confused:

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 11:14 AM

Guys there are 23 spots left for ZDayZ registration. Once those fill up anyone that registers after will have to eat outside of the rec center.

FPenvy 03-18-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2219224)
Guys there are 23 spots left for ZDayZ registration. Once those fill up anyone that registers after will have to eat outside of the rec center.

can i rec your center? :yum:

shadoquad 03-18-2013 11:20 AM

Steev, thinking of getting a flashlight mount for the gopro for our cabins

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2219243)
Steev, thinking of getting a flashlight mount for the gopro for our cabins

Fleshlight mount? :confused::yum:

2theextreme 03-18-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 2219243)
Steev, thinking of getting a fleshlite mount for the gopro for our cabins

:icon14: What? :bowrofl:

2theextreme 03-18-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2219250)
Fleshlight mount? :confused::yum:

You beat me to it!!! :roflpuke2:

shadoquad 03-18-2013 11:25 AM

:bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 2219256)
You beat me to it!!! :roflpuke2:

I also posted first. :tup:

FPenvy 03-18-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 2219256)
You beat me to it!!! :roflpuke2:

i was a second too late as well :shakes head:

m4a1mustang 03-18-2013 11:26 AM

Oh, I was thinking, this weekend in Columbia we should choose an interesting location for lunch vs. the normal burger place or Famous Daves. Gotta expand our horizons and try new restaurants. :yum:

2theextreme 03-18-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2219262)
I also posted first. :tup:

:werd:

But is it strange we both thought the same thing? .....and so quickly? :rolleyes:


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