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Tigger · 12-04-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Could have gotten an XDs in 45.

Nice buy though, welcome to the HK family!

There is a reason I have 6 HKs.

I like the P30's in general but HK messed up with that slide mounted decocker. I prefer the decocker to be apart of the safety like all the rest of HK pistol family. Also since the decocker is on the slide you can't swap out the triggers like you can with the USP, P200, HK45, and the non-slide mounted decocker variants of the P30. That is one of the reasons I want a P30L V1. The other reason is that the V1 has the LEM light trigger like what I have installed in my HK45s

I didn't want another XDwhatever. I already had one. Just wouldn't be on par with what i already have in the M. And I've always wanted an HK. This one was tucked back in a darker corner of the case and you really couldn't make out what it was. Kind of like an omen.

I love the compactness of it and the action on the slide. The decocker was a big plus for me. I don't give a **** that it is on the back of the slide. From your perspective they screwed up but I think it was a smart decision. And I like that it doesn't have a safety lever. That makes it quicker for me to operate and no mishandling possibilities between the slide release and safety like i've experienced on other pistols. These polymers were designed for speed and efficiency. Glad they stuck to that concept.

m4a1mustang · 12-04-2015, 07:38 PM

For compactness I'm more than fine with my Kahr CM9 and Glock 26!

VABAM · 12-05-2015, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

I didn't want another XDwhatever. I already had one. Just wouldn't be on par with what i already have in the M. And I've always wanted an HK. This one was tucked back in a darker corner of the case and you really couldn't make out what it was. Kind of like an omen.

I love the compactness of it and the action on the slide. The decocker was a big plus for me. I don't give a **** that it is on the back of the slide. From your perspective they screwed up but I think it was a smart decision. And I like that it doesn't have a safety lever. That makes it quicker for me to operate and no mishandling possibilities between the slide release and safety like i've experienced on other pistols. These polymers were designed for speed and efficiency. Glad they stuck to that concept.

Don't get me wrong I like the slide decocker even though I prefer the standard style but it sacrificed a feature I really like on HK pistols.

Tigger · 12-05-2015, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Don't get me wrong I like the slide decocker even though I prefer the standard style but it sacrificed a feature I really like on HK pistols.

Fair enough. To each their own.

ZCarMan · 12-07-2015, 05:42 PM

This video is entertaining. I can't imagine anyone doing the things done to this particular VP9, but I always enjoy when they do torture tests on any firearm just to see what it can and can not withstand.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2015, 11:18 AM

Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course.

Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap **** for plinking!

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course.

Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap **** for plinking!

ew. i have a hard time with the concept of shooting steel. i've done it, but didn't care for it. no real feed issues but my pride was severely diminished. lol

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 11:49 AM

oh. you said tavor. ummm. but my statement about pride still applies.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2015, 11:56 AM

Reading the forums it looks like most of the Wolf is fine, but the TulAmmo is the most varied in quality. Screw pride... I just want to shoot paper.

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Reading the forums it looks like most of the Wolf is fine, but the TulAmmo is the most varied in quality. Screw pride... I just want to shoot paper.

lol! no worries man. i won't judge you.

i do remember shooting TulAmmo several years ago. horrible stuff even in a pistol.

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 12:05 PM

i just need to finally buy some reloading equipment. i'll never have to buy ammo again unless i shoot all my 9mm Lehigh Defense stuff. Omg. Their ammo is the ****. Three boxes will set you back $100 easy but damn is it wickedly good ****.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2015, 12:11 PM

I'm going to buy some reloading stuff when I buy a house. I don't know if my parents would appreciate me setting up a reloading station in their basement!

I was trying to explain to a very anti-gun coworker why "stockpiles" of ammo are not scary... it's economical!

Tigger · 12-12-2015, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'm going to buy some reloading stuff when I buy a house. I don't know if my parents would appreciate me setting up a reloading station in their basement!

I was trying to explain to a very anti-gun coworker why "stockpiles" of ammo are not scary... it's economical!

lol! really? wow. yeah. its called, buy while it is cheap. never know if the next time is the time it won't come back down.

m4a1mustang · 12-12-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigger

lol! really? wow. yeah. its called, buy while it is cheap. never know if the next time is the time it won't come back down.

"Why does anyone need 10,000 rounds?"

That kind of stuff.

VABAM · 12-12-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

......I was trying to explain to a very anti-gun coworker why "stockpiles" of ammo are not scary... it's economical!

Good luck with that.

12-04-2015, 07:38 PM	#2357 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	For compactness I'm more than fine with my Kahr CM9 and Glock 26! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-07-2015, 05:42 PM	#2360 (permalink)
ZCarMan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: MD Posts: 4,488 Drives: 09 Z34, 13 F-150 Rep Power: 25	This video is entertaining. I can't imagine anyone doing the things done to this particular VP9, but I always enjoy when they do torture tests on any firearm just to see what it can and can not withstand. __________________ Jon Swift \| SPC \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| AAM \| Cobb \| Hawk \| Volk Racing \| Bridgestone Green Demon Eyes

12-12-2015, 11:18 AM	#2361 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Any of you Tavor guys shoot Wolf or TulAmmo without any issues? Aside from the need for deep cleaning, of course. Everything good is gone, so I think I need to stock up on some cheap ** for plinking! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!**

12-12-2015, 11:56 AM	#2364 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Reading the forums it looks like most of the Wolf is fine, but the TulAmmo is the most varied in quality. Screw pride... I just want to shoot paper. Tigger likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 602	i just need to finally buy some reloading equipment. i'll never have to buy ammo again unless i shoot all my 9mm Lehigh Defense stuff. Omg. Their ammo is the **. Three boxes will set you back $100 easy but damn is it wickedly good **. m4a1mustang likes this.

12-12-2015, 11:49 AM	#2363 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 602	oh. you said tavor. ummm. but my statement about pride still applies.

12-12-2015, 12:11 PM	#2367 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I'm going to buy some reloading stuff when I buy a house. I don't know if my parents would appreciate me setting up a reloading station in their basement! I was trying to explain to a very anti-gun coworker why "stockpiles" of ammo are not scary... it's economical! Tigger likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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