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I think we've found an issue. Every age you have mentioned is <25. Women are batshit crazy anyway, but it's so much worse under 27 or so.

Understood. The girl a few hours away is around 25 and shot me down. My buddy's ex-fiancee was around 28 when she broke off the engagement only to marry someone else on the exact day planned. That girl was crazy from the get go.

How I see it, it doesn't matter what age the person is. Everyone's got their quirks. Even my mom drives my dad crazy, but they still love each other dearly.

It gets marginally better after they turn 30. Maybe it's just that they get better about hiding it.

I think that's true. Someone once told me that anyone can act 'normal' for 90 days, that's usually when the wheels fall off. The challenge I have is the women in my age range are either self medicated (alcohol) or Big Pharma medicated (Xanax and who knows what else). I admit I act a little churlish when I'm out and about, hell, I'm a Marine what else am I supposed to do? :) I seem to have a little better success when I'm not looking for a gf, things just fall into my lap (not literally, but you get the idea). I may have to take bombdefuzer's suggestion and move to Thailand, I could use a housekeeper/cook/bed warmer... :tup:

Digi, it's sounds naïve, but you will find someone perfect for you. People say it comes when you least expect it, but it usually requires some effort. The issue isn't always with the girl either. Let's face it, none of us are perfect. Age isn't a big deal, but maturity can be. Also, forget the Asian or racial thing....it's really insignificant to liking a particular person. I'm 33-year old Filipino and my girlfriend, now fiancé, is 26-year old Irish/Scottish. Find someone who has the same interest and values as you and go from there. All the little check list you tick off when meeting a girl only stops you from your ultimate goal...being happy. Not married or being in a relationship...just being happy. Just use every date as a learning experience, every rejection as one less girl to worry about. Sounds cliché, but try striking up conversations at a bookstore, library or any places you have an interest. It's all about getting out there in the real world. You can't expect them to just walk into your house.

lol, Vegas Baby!

To be perfectly honest I think Vegas is boring but that's because I've been there twice with my parents and all I saw was sand and casinos (I don't gamble so was just walking around looking at things). I should probably check out some shows next time I go.

Fixed. Take a trip out to the Bunny Ranch.

You don't go to Vegas with your parents.

dude I need to just go down to Houston and meet up with you so you can set me straight :bowrofl:

There's plenty of people in your neck of the woods that can help too. Get some guys together and go find some strippers. Going by yourself is kinda creepy. Bonus points if it's one of the skanky all-nude places. Go get some titties in your face. Drink man-sized quantities of whiskey. Smoke cigars. It'll make your life better. Don't do it too often, but at least give it a try. You may take to it.

If you made it down here, I'm sure we could find enough Z guys to split up a party bus rental, a cooler of booze and a keg. Last time it only cost ~100 or so for about 15 guys. bring cash only, leave the camera at home.

Man-sized quantities of whiskey...so, a pour on the rocks? :roflpuke2:

Check out craigslist for casual encounters? lmao

30 plus? still single?

You win!!!

ps I do NOT win...

:( Damn you, Hitler!!

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So how do I get in on that party bus? :happydance:

Fixed..

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Hell, I may make the trip for that. :bowrofl:

Haha... Houston is so fun. I've not been back there since the break up. Last time I was there, it was with my ex to visit her family and pick up my car from Baker.

BTW... what are some good hang out spots for late 20s to 30s people to get together? A few months ago I was in Dallas, and my friends and I visited "The Dram." It's a sweet lounge and bar, and it's a bit classy. I had a lot of fun there, but one of the guys wasn't having so much fun and wanted to "meet girls" at the club. It was a letdown that night.

We don't really have that much going here... just clubs and coffee shops.

That's true. When it happens, it happens. The effort is just putting myself out there instead of staying in so much. Plus, I try to focus on taking care of myself and stay positive. It's challenging at times, but it drives me to try harder to become stronger and better.

You don't have any decent bars? Nothing too fancy, but not a place with sawdust on the floor either. Someplace where you can hear someone else talk without yelling. I've always had my best times at those kind of places as opposed to clubs.

I hate clubs, worst place to meet girls unless you want a drunk whore.

Are you saying that's a negative or a positive? :rofl2:

All depends on what you're looking for.

I go to the club with my buddies to have a good time, if I happen to meet a chick, thats a bonus.

I just hate all the peacocking.

BS:icon17:. No you don't! Every guy goes to a club hoping he'll get laid by the end of the night. You don't shower, shave, and get all dressed up for your buddy Brian. Don't fret, girls are the same way.

Then don't be a peacock, be a man. Men don't giveafuq about peacocks.

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That's all I see at the club.

:ugh: You're suppose to be looking at the girls.

I don't know what you're talking about. :)
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There are some bars here... mainly restaurant-like, but nothing too classy. There are a few spots downtown, but not a place I'd meet anyone (more like meeting up).

So for my first date tonight, it'll be dinner downtown. There's not much to do here and I'm trying to avoid movies (last resort if she really wants to go to one). There are museums (closed after 5-6p), live theater (nothing after new year), pool halls, bowling alley, piano bar (loud), etc.

You're going on a first date on a Wednesday?

Are you doing something before dinner? You should definitely try doing something before dinner to break the ice. Absolutely no going to the movies! Even if she loves movies and suggest it, say no. It's the absolute worst place to get to know someone. Go somewhere quiet, scenic or fun. Comedy club or anything with live music maybe? There's gotta be a place in Kansas with a nice view. Heck, even something silly like Dave and Busters.

Some other suggestions that has worked well for me: (A lot easier to find stuff in NY, but you can certainly improvise)
-Ice Skating (perfect time of the year for this). Follow up with hot chocolate or coffee and you're in!
-Art Museum
-Walking around the city or town and going into small shops. (probably too cold, but still doable)
-Unique restaurant (Fondue or Hibachi for example)
-Zoo or Aquarium
-The Driving Range
-Watch a game

Yup! The initial plan was a double date with my friend and his fiancee. When he and I decided against it I had already asked my date about Wednesday. She works everyday and gets off a little later. We've met a few times, and she went to my house for the NYE party.

I'm in Wichita, which doesn't have much going on compared to KC. The cold weather limits outdoor activities as well. She suggested hanging out in the downtown area, which is close to where she lives. This is the first time I've put so much thought even though I just need to go with the flow and have fun. I've hung out with other girls in the past year, and never had to go through this. She's pretty outgoing, so I'm sure she's fine with anything. It would be nice to simply get to know each other better in person since the phone/text stuff is fairly minimal.

Here's a site to look at:
Arts & Entertainment | OldtownWichita.com

Here's what I have to deal with:
-Ice Skating (Closed at 3PM)
-Art Museum (Closd after 5PM or so)
-Walking around the city or town and going into small shops. (Possible freezing drizzle, and she's a little sick.)
-Unique restaurant (Easy)
-Zoo or Aquarium (Too cold. We don't have an aquarium)
-The Driving Range (Too cold. We have a couple spots, but it's all indoor arcade and ticket gaming. Fun to take a date, though.)
-Watch a game (WSU Shockers playing at home tonight! We might miss it by the time we finish dinner, though.)

Indoor shooting range anywhere close to you?

There's one I can think of, but closed at 9PM by the time we're done with dinner.

Why not put the ball in her court? You pick the place for dinner, but have her pick the activity since it's in her neck of the woods.

Man, that sucks. In that case, keep it simple and suggest doing those things another time later at the end of your date. She knows the place too and how there is very little to do.

Good luck to you sir. A good first date on a Wed is going to be challenging but not impossible.

I wouldn't do that on a first date. Women want something planned, not having to plan something....especially on the first date. The worst possible response to that conversation is, "I dunno, where do you wanna go?"

I think I'll suggest a comfy place to lounge, enjoy some hot chocolate and deserts, and have a good conversation. It might not be downtown, but it's ok. It's easy navigating around this town as long as places are still open.

Definitely. Thanks! :tiphat:

That's a woman's response any time you ask them that question. Why not start early? :rofl2:

"Any place is fine."
"Ok, let's go to X."
"I hate X, pick something else. Anything's fine."
"How about Y?"
"I hate Y."
"Then you pick."
"Anything's fine"


Repeat until you just say "**** it" and go to the one place you hate that you know she loves, and she wanted to go to, but didn't want to suggest it.

Truth!

....can also apply to... "where do you want to eat for dinner?" I'm actually kinda glad my girl's a vegetarian. Every restaurant has salad or pasta.