I'm an engin...
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That's the problem... fighting against that stigma. My goal now is to avoid the topic of "So what do you do?"

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I can usually dodge that stigma by telling them I am part of the Elections Dept. and I get to help and see the behind-the-scenes of an election, which is pretty interesting.

Completely deflects the IT nerdiness they usually come up with.

I always get the "Oh, your a computer guy. Can you help me fix my computer?"

For the fun factor, I try to tell people I try to outwit hackers. It's not nearly as interesting as it sounds (like watching log alerts), but it excites some people.

For the, "can you fix my computer," people, I actually tell them I work on servers and networking gear, and am really bad about desktops anymore. Which is more and more the truth since I grew into IT with XP and while I know it inside and out, I'm far less deep into Vista/7/8. I also haven't been on a desktop team in 7 years.

For the, "I need website help..." I am a little less clear on what I do. I know how to code, but I don't code on our dev team and don't really design much (unpracticed with images/graphics). I do, however, support the dev team, know many developers, and do host sites...so...it's hard to convince normal people that I can't (or don't) want to help them.

My immediate response is "Oh, you have Linux?!"

I met this girl working at a restaurant over the weekend. She was fairly talkative and a bit fun so I got her number. Let's say it's a small world, but somehow we got in the conversation where she asked me if I knew how to fix laptops (MacBook). I'm not much of an Apple guy, so I managed to dodged that.

Yesterday I randomly invited her out for some tennis in this great windy weather, but she had to work. She asked me to come to her work place (another job) for some 1 hour sale. I should've dodged this one, but I was nice enough to come by and get stuff for my mom in the process.

This morning I asked her about random stuff, and somehow got into the conversation about her phone running out of memory and needed expansion.

Help me get unstuck in this mode. Well, at least this beats wasting my time with an ex. :icon14:

My buddy's gf has a cute sister. I didn't ask for her number. In fact, she was a bit miffed when she saw me getting the waitress's number :trollface:. This girl is constantly glued to her phone taking selfies. Like her older sis, she shows signs of lazy butt syndrome - hates running and exercising.

What's that? Some form of STD? :icon18:

digi- your post is all over the place! :icon17: ;) congrats on the new potential girl. :D

Haha! No way. A bit too young for me, but entertaining nonetheless. She's actually a relative of one of my friend's wife (big family here). He thinks we're hitting it off and would vouch for me.

My single buds and I are in the middle of talking about looking around for single young professionals.

Visit Thailand. This is why I have been there since 2007. I haven't cooked a meal for myself since I stepped foot in Bangkok in March 2007. The only thing I really miss is my Z.
But the women are absolutely lovely.

But I've heard stories... :ughdance:

Fixing laptops, going to buy things from her work instead of going out, upgrading memory on phones? Sounds like you're playing the nice guy and are at the top of the list to be friend zoned.

The best wing man is not actually a man, but rather a wing woman. I'd try to turn her into that, which will either yield you A) An awesome wing woman or B) Flip her jealousy switch... either way win/win

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Yeah there are woMEN. Same as anywhere I suppose. It's a very tolerant society here. In many ways much better than the mindset in western society.
I do like it here but sometimes I need a "time out" and take a flight back to the USA. Did I mention the ladies are lovely ? lol:tiphat:

Makes more sense. I've run into girls like these before (several). Like we barely know each other and she goes off asking these sort of things. I'm probably going to back off slowly... no real intent on dating her anyhow (too youngish). I've only known her since Saturday night haha. Oh the intent of wing woman would be nice... gotta make some connections. :)

Just get out there and be yourself. Like Chuck said it is a numbers game, you'll strike-out with a lot of girls, but one of them will like your offbeat humor or stupid joke and you two will hit it off. Also just do trial and error. If something works keep doing it, if something doesn't try something else. Just repeat that until you have a "method" and then use and abuse it. One thing I don't recommend is to try and be something you're not unless you are just trying to get laid. If you are looking for a relationship and you get into one pretending to be something you're not, then in the long run it will go bad anyway and you will just have wasted your time. Also if you are nervous about trying things out close to where you live and getting embarrassed go to another town near you and work on your game. A buddy of mine at work used to drive to bars in Ft. Worth to try stupid pickup tactics out that he was too embarrassed to try at local spots and now he gets more *** than anyone I have ever seen, because he experimented with some ridiculous things knowing he would most likely never see the people again.

Also regarding the aquarium thing posted earlier, definitely consider that. They are great conversation pieces, especially the high-tech planted ones. People see the saltwater ones all the time in malls and wherever, and they are always more interested in my planted tanks that look just as good, but have a more exotic feel.

This is tough! I notice phone calls isn't really the thing to do anymore, so it's all about texting and messaging.

Texting/Messaging is a little less personal at first and easier to engage in by both parties. Kind of like the anonymity of the internet, in a way it is like a mask for people, possibly people like me who take some time to open up or are a bit shy at first.

Kind of fits here.



My friend and his wife went to Times Square for NYE and are playing long distance match-maker for me apparently.

Wouldn't be too bad of a thing if the girl was coming back home to Arizona, but she lives in Atlanta. :icon14:

Still, texting it is.




Which I'm grateful for, because my buddy and this girl text me at like 11:45-midnight and I'd have been pissed if my phone range, because someone was calling me. :mad:

:iagree: The anonymity of the internet is amazing for meeting new people.

Yea, this is I get for slacking the past 2 years. So far met 3 girls of various age. The youngest one was just a lot of fun to talk to, so she pretty much made it easier for me to let go. The next two are tough. I already blew it with one. The last is fun to talk to, outgoing, but takes a while to warm up.

From texting I realize I can't carry a normal direct conversation. It has to be short blips of words of random stuff to get her attention. I don't know. I get advice left and right. Basically I try my best not to come off desperate.

So far when meeting complete strangers, I can get her number. That doesn't mean she's interested, so I have to somehow build it. I'm OK with that since I rather not rush, but when she isn't communicating as much it's tough. I wouldn't give up till she tells me she has absolutely no interest. So far I'm getting FZ, but I think I can try to play my cards carefully with the remaining one. Still looking for variety in the mean time.

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my wife is half pinoy and she said she refuses to date other pinoys because of their wana be thug attitudes they always have. Shes half white but she said no way to them. Im white so go fig. Im still pretty gangsta though:)

Haha. Nice. The one I'm chatting with is part Viet. She's fairly outgoing so it balances my mellow side. Who knows... Fun to chat with for now.

I'm not quite 30 (only 26) and still single. Never have really had a "serious" relationship. Just lots of random couple week long flings. My longest has been maybe 4 months. Kind of pathetic but I think it's all me. I'm super picky and always find something wrong with the girl I'm talking to and kind of just stop talking to her.

Tried online dating for the last two years, met some really crazy girls and some really cool ones. The ones that I actually liked ended up friend zoning me. Yes, I'm the typical nice guy. I don't feel the need to change that though.

Recently I've given up on online dating and have just been more focused on myself. I've actually met 3-4 chicks in the past month but I don't know that I'm going to persue any of them.

Sorry if this didn't add anything of value to the conversation, just wanted to share what's going on in my life.

MGTOW high five

Not gonna lie, I had to look that one up lol. But thanks.

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:iagree: obscure.. :icon08:

I'm 28 in a few days and still single and have no intentions on dating or marrying anytime soon. I'm too "do it my way" and independent to compromise as much and as often as a typical relationship requires to work, I recognize this, and motor on.

Interesting, indeed. I talked to a friend who works in my building. He purchased a house 3 years ago, and he's also in the same situation. I've been living alone in my new house for about 1.5 years now, and this is getting old. The elders keep telling me to go to Vietnam to find someone, and there's a small pool of girls I'm not too crazy about. Meh. I'm not that desperate.

The particular girl I'm talking to is a little young (22 soon), but she's very outgoing. She briefly attended my NYE party, and she quickly socialized and played beer pong with my friends. For awhile I thought she knew some of them. She works a lot, so I have to pace myself with texts and whatnot. It's a bit of a challenge to talk to her via text/phone since she either takes awhile to respond or it is brief. Unless we're planning something, I try not to send her more than 2-3 texts a day. In person, she's quite fun to talk to. We're going on a little dinner date tomorrow. :)

Right now I'm overthinking things because I've been FZ'd so many times, so I'm constantly watching my step. It's like playing Minesweeper. Click on the wrong tile, and I get FZ'd. Haha!

LoL. Nice analogy Digi. Good luck!

Texting is ok. I prefer texts to phone calls any day for small snippets. Some women prefer voice calls, though, so I just have to change as needed.

Actual messaging is still king amongst non-face-to-face conversation (Skype/web cam chat is a strange hybrid) for me. I love talking in IM to someone, though I do it far less than I used to. You can really get close to people by talking online and sharing feelings/thoughts/interests. It's far easier for almost everyone than in person.

The exception being someone who can't write very well at all, and thus can't properly communicate via written words. Granted, that is plenty of people, but those aren't people I tend to be around even in person...

I can usually tell when I'm not going to get along with someone in person by some extended conversations via IM.

I just honestly don't see why people are so bent on getting married. It sounds like you feel peer pressured more than anything. Being single has some amazing benefits, as does being married, I am sure. Just live your life and let those chips fall how they will and don't worry about it, is my philosophy.

One of my dad's friends said "For your new years resolution, you need to get a girlfriend. Then a wife." I asked him "Both, or wife first, then girlfriend?" He said "No, no! You'll get in trouble if you do that." :rofl2:

There's this girl, who moved here from Vietnam about 2 years ago and obviously likes me (possibly wants to marry me to get permanent residence). She hangs out at my parents house at least once a week to the point my dad's friends wonder why I won't introduce them to my "girlfriend." I tell them I don't have one, and I'm told "She's upstairs." SMH. She's around 24 now, and she spends a lot of time with my mom. Both of my parents bugged me about her for awhile. Even my aunt suggested I give her a chance. Quite honestly, I've hung out with her a few times. That's it... no attraction. 2014... moving on.

That's the thing about most of these girls in or from Vietnam. Some of them are fairly aggressive, and it's easy to sense the motive with these girls. I look into her eyes, and I get weird vibes.

I definitely don't want to come off as desperate or looking to get married. I'm just trying to make the right moves like playing chess (not a chess player). I just want to have fun with this girl, and who knows what it'll lead to.

So maybe I'm missing something, but why not look for non-Vietnamese chicks? I've never had a good experience with one. You **** them, not date them if you value your wallet.

Ain't that the truth! The friend I mentioned earlier gave up on Asian girls completely.

The last mixed girl I dated was Vietnamese/French and was culturally Vietnamese. It was a PITA of a relationship and lasted 6 months. The one I'm currently talking to is also mixed, but she is culturally Caucasian. I've never dated a white girl before, so this could get interesting if I play my cards right. She stays positive with her personality and is fairly attractive, so I'm sure she's tired of a bunch of dudes hitting on her with the same lines and whatnot. I'm trying to avoid that slippery slope.

In the meantime, I still keep my options open.

I'm approaching a potentially racially charged subject with typical white guy ignorance, but I've got to ask- are most Asian girls superficial and money hungry, or is it just the ones who will date white guys? I have pretty good sample size that fit that stereotype to a T.

Summary of 2013

• My ex pretty much uses guys for food, money, and drinks. I was one of the victims as of last year when she wanted to get in touch with me again. I'd offer my care for her, and she goes off sleeping with some dude because she liked him. She thinks any of these dudes [business owners with money] might be the one, but they either dump her or tell her they don't want to be serious. Talks about being broke and money stuff a lot.
• A girl I hung out talked about money stuff a lot and bragged about her purse collection including a $5k purse. Complained about her ex-bfs spending money on their cars. Barely lasted 2 days.
• Another one is showing interest hanging out with me, but my friends say she dates guys for money.
• The one that hangs out with my mom is nice, but she seems to bribe them with gifts and kindness. Claims my mom is her close friend. Even watches movies with her and her friend till 3AM. It's obvious she's gotta motive, and I don't fall for that jazz. :icon14:

That seems to be about my experiences with the Asian girls. I've had those same type of experiences with non-Asian girls as well, but not nearly as often.

where are you going to find girls who are attracted to money? i haven't been able to find girls like that... all the ones i know have their own stable careers and DGAF about money
people keep saying beware of golddiggers but i don't know a single golddigger :confused:

Scottsdale, AZ.

You're looking at the wrong places then. Go to a decent bar. Valet the Porsche. Take your time getting out of it.

Haha, any takers, Chuck? ;)

The one I'm talking to is a fairly typical 21 year old white girl... likes to have fun, party, drink, travel, takes snaps shots, wears lots of make up at times, etc. In person, she doesn't even act the way she looks. She doesn't come off conceited, and doesn't talk money either. When she jumped in the passenger side of my car her first words were "Wow, your car is clean!" I was driving the '99 Accord that night. :p