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Originally Posted by dtul I have a couple shotguns, just bought a Winchester SX3 12 gauge and also have a Browning BPS Ducks Unlimited 20 gauge. I am planning on

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Old 12-24-2013, 06:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a couple shotguns, just bought a Winchester SX3 12 gauge and also have a Browning BPS Ducks Unlimited 20 gauge.

I am planning on buying my first pistol soon since I just turned 21 recently. Any recommendations? I am thinking either a G19 or G23 since I have smaller or hands or possibly an XD. I found a really good deal on a an XD .45 GAP, but I'm just worried that it will be too hard to find ammo for it, so I haven't pulled the trigger yet (see what I did there?). Anyways if you guys can recommend any good range guns for a newer shooter it would be much appreciated.
Find a range that will let you rent pistols, then try several. Make your decision based on how the gun fits your hand, then decide on caliber after shooting it. Most new shooters do better with a 9 than with a .40 or .45. Don't go with an oddball caliber like .45 GAP, it's too hard to find ammo for it. The XDs are nice, I'm not sure but if they have the option to switch calibers by changing barrels, that might be the way to go. I have a SIG P226 in 40 that I switched to .357 SIG by changing barrels. Another thing to keep in mind is what are you going to use the gun for. For CCW use, I'd go with a 9 because recoil is easier to manage and that will equate to more rounds on target. I still carry a .45, but I'm seriously considering switching my carry gun to a 9 after doing some training with Rob Pincus (I hope I spelled that right). Recoil management seems to be the key, I can get 8 rounds of 9 on target faster than I can 8 rounds of .45, and I've sent more than a few thousand rounds downrange. Just my
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Find a range that will let you rent pistols, then try several. Make your decision based on how the gun fits your hand, then decide on caliber after shooting it. Most new shooters do better with a 9 than with a .40 or .45. Don't go with an oddball caliber like .45 GAP, it's too hard to find ammo for it. The XDs are nice, I'm not sure but if they have the option to switch calibers by changing barrels, that might be the way to go. I have a SIG P226 in 40 that I switched to .357 SIG by changing barrels. Another thing to keep in mind is what are you going to use the gun for. For CCW use, I'd go with a 9 because recoil is easier to manage and that will equate to more rounds on target. I still carry a .45, but I'm seriously considering switching my carry gun to a 9 after doing some training with Rob Pincus (I hope I spelled that right). Recoil management seems to be the key, I can get 8 rounds of 9 on target faster than I can 8 rounds of .45, and I've sent more than a few thousand rounds downrange. Just my
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I found an old picture of my upper from when I was building my 10" AR all and all I can do is stare at the ammo its sitting on! Before things were crazy I bought that in two trips to walmart for something like $17-18 per 100!
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I found an old picture of my upper from when I was building my 10" AR all and all I can do is stare at the ammo its sitting on! Before things were crazy I bought that in two trips to walmart for something like $17-18 per 100!
This makes me sad..now a "decent" deal is 50 rounds for the same price.
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I recently won a Sig P290RS ORB. Absolutely no money was spent out of pocket for me. I entered a raffle and got lucky. Love this little 9mm gun.

I also ordered a lower receiver for an AR 15 I want to put together. It's from New Frontier.

New Frontier Armory STRIPPED GENII AR15 Polymer Lower Receiver with Lower Parts Kits Installed
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I also ordered a lower receiver for an AR 15 I want to put together. It's from New Frontier.

New Frontier Armory STRIPPED GENII AR15 Polymer Lower Receiver with Lower Parts Kits Installed
I have seen so many polymer lowers break that I am confident in predicting that you are destined for heartaches and headaches. I cannot recommend against them strongly enough.
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I have seen so many polymer lowers break ...
Any idea as to why that is? Glock and others seem to have had good luck with polymers. Higher stress from a rifle cartridge? Poor manufacturing?
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Higher stress from a rifle cartridge? Poor manufacturing?
Both, IMHO. I've seen lowers from Plum Crazy, S&W, New Frontier, and RRA. I think there are only those that have cracked, and those that are soon going to crack. They break at the takedown pin holes, the FCG mounting holes, and where the receiver extension screws in. I think it's a combination of the higher-pressure cartridge with the torque stresses of a rifle as well as poor manufacturing and lousy quality control. Only exception (so far) seems to be the M&P 15-22. I haven't seen one of those go down yet.
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Any idea as to why that is? Glock and others seem to have had good luck with polymers. Higher stress from a rifle cartridge? Poor manufacturing?
It's the design. Glock and other polymer handguns have completely integrated designs where nothing is being screwed into the polymer. The only high stress part are the frame rails and on Glocks, metal rails are cast into the polymer.

The only polymer AR lower I found to be capable of "real" usage is the now defunct Cavalry Arms that had the integrated pistol grip and buttstock. With no metal being screwed into plastic, it is very durable and one of my favorite ARs due to its lightness. But one drawback of the Cav Arms lower is the non-adjustable length of pull and fat grip.
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That sucks. I just bought one from Ares armor.
I haven't milled it out yet.
What they should is have metal surround the weak point of the lower. That would strengthen it.


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