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I am just tired of the blame the gun mentality. The vast majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens that pose no threat to anyone. They own guns for

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Old 12-20-2012, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am just tired of the blame the gun mentality. The vast majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens that pose no threat to anyone. They own guns for sport, hunting, personal protection, etc. Doesn't really matter WHY they have them. It's a right.

We could do so much more to prevent gun violence (and violence in general) by actually enforcing existing laws and by focusing energy on the root causes of violence be it mental health issues or poverty/socioeconomic distress.

The very people our legislature wants to target (us... the law abiding gun owner) are NOT the problem.
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The last AWB was so freaking stupid, but it doesn't suprise me that idiot politicians want to reinstate it. Our government is so retarded right now that it is no wonder that people want to arm themselves. It is so selfish and shortsighted to deny a person the maximum (reasonable) ability to defend themselves and their family. I am not prepper, but I definitely see a few realistic scenarios where one would need an assault rifle. It definitely is not my goto weapon for home defense, but like a fire extinguisher I am glad I have a couple on-hand.

With that said I think I might pick up that H&K P2000 9mm I have had my eye on and order a couple extra high capacity mags today.
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This doesn't take into account 1 million deaths annually from preventable heart disease, nor the 350,000 deaths annually from obesity and it's co-morbidities, also largely preventable.


In other news: Eric Holder in an interview about an hour ago suggested that pursuing gun control via Executive Order is a route that he and Obama are considering.

Eric Holder: executive orders on gun control? | WashingtonExaminer.com


One suggested approach that has been gaining traction around Washington is an Executive Order directing that all "assault weapons" would be made to fall under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Personally, I've already been moving in that direction by submitting Form 1's for an 11.5 SBR on a receiver I've had sitting around and doing the same for the receiver of my 16 inch Noveske. I probably won't actually put a short barrel on either, but once registered all I'd have to do is slap an 11.5 inch upper on any of them.
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This doesn't take into account 1 million deaths annually from preventable heart disease, nor the 350,000 deaths annually from obesity and it's co-morbidities, also largely preventable.


In other news: Eric Holder in an interview about an hour ago suggested that pursuing gun control via Executive Order is a route that he and Obama are considering.

Eric Holder: executive orders on gun control? | WashingtonExaminer.com


One suggested approach that has been gaining traction around Washington is an Executive Order directing that all "assault weapons" would be made to fall under the National Firearms Act of 1934. Personally, I've already been moving in that direction by submitting Form 1's for an 11.5 SBR on a receiver I've had sitting around and doing the same for the receiver of my 16 inch Noveske. I probably won't actually put a short barrel on either, but once registered all I'd have to do is slap an 11.5 inch upper on any of them.
Oh Shyt. 25,000 unintentional falls. Lets make a Walking/Standing Ban!!!!
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Holy crap! I just went to my local gun store to purchase the H&K P2000 to see that their entire stock of AR-15's and 30rd PMAGs have been wiped out. The fact that they probably had hundreds of them on the racks makes that remarkable. There is a 4 day wait for the background check whereas it took about 30 minutes a few weeks ago.

I have to say that there were about 5 guys looking at their last AR which was a S&W performance center version. I would say that all 5 of them probably were people that had no business owning an AR and would otherwise never be interesting in owning one.

Nice job moronic politicians
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Holy crap! I just went to my local gun store to purchase the H&K P2000 to see that their entire stock of AR-15's and 30rd PMAGs have been wiped out. The fact that they probably had hundreds of them on the racks makes that remarkable. There is a 4 day wait for the background check whereas it took about 30 minutes a few weeks ago.

I have to say that there were about 5 guys looking at their last AR which was a S&W performance center version. I would say that all 5 of them probably were people that had no business owning an AR and would otherwise never be interesting in owning one.

Nice job moronic politicians
My bro-in-law just called me telling me he bought an AK pistol today, it was the last one and they don't know how long it will take to replenish. Firearms makers are screwed with being overworked. I hope quality control doesn't suffer?
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My bro-in-law just called me telling me he bought an AK pistol today, it was the last one and they don't know how long it will take to replenish. Firearms makers are screwed with being overworked. I hope quality control doesn't suffer?
I anticipated this when our King Obama started yapping his trap after the Aurora theater shooting. It was then I made my move to buy my second AR. For the reason you just stated I think it was a good idea.

I just placed an order for a couple high capacity magazines for my new pistol. It was suprising that they were available.

When I was waiting for a sales guy at the gun store a couple came in and were eyeballing the P2000 that I was going to buy. When they pulled it from the case they seemed bummed I was buying it. I kinda feel bad for them...thanks again butthole politicians.
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The last AWB was so freaking stupid, but it doesn't suprise me that idiot politicians want to reinstate it. Our government is so retarded right now that it is no wonder that people want to arm themselves. It is so selfish and shortsighted to deny a person the maximum (reasonable) ability to defend themselves and their family. I am not prepper, but I definitely see a few realistic scenarios where one would need an assault rifle. It definitely is not my goto weapon for home defense, but like a fire extinguisher I am glad I have a couple on-hand.

With that said I think I might pick up that H&K P2000 9mm I have had my eye on and order a couple extra high capacity mags today.


My primary HD's are a parausa1911 .45acp and a mossberg 500a cruiser shotgun. My assault rifles are for sport, hobby tinkering and the very low chance of jic-shtf. It is our right carry to possess for all reasons above.
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