Anyone here into firearms?

ImportConvert

What info would you like? I can get/have anything you could imagine on it for the most part. Just ask.

MacCool

We just recently had an indoor range open here in the area. On opening day I was able to pick up a Huldra Tac Elite, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of XM193, several pmags and even a couple of impossible-to-find magazines for my Walther PPQ in the Pro Shop. I got the last Tactical Elite, but I noted that they had several Korstogs in the rack. That's a brand new Fleet Farm house brand that is essentially a "direct impingement" version of the Huldra (which is a gas piston design). So new, I don't think it's even for sale yet other than their Pro Shop. They also had a few Colts and a couple of BCM's.

Fleet Farm has gone to DD, Noveske, and BCM looking for distribution contracts but when those companies heard the numbers they needed for their 33 stores they just laughed....no way they could come up with those kinds of numbers.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/korstogarms?fref=ts

edub370

well, i'm not really sure yet. this being my first AR, i dont think i plan on doing tons of hunting with it, but if i ever did, i figured i would be better off going with the .300. Hell, maybe i should just buy 2 uppers.

side note: just bought a VLTOR stock and buffer tube for my lower. now i get to look into the fun stuff... UPPERS!

i'm going to purchase a complete upper. so i know i want a free float, and flat top. but not sure about what other characteristics i should be looking for in an upper assembly. can anyone shed some light on some do's and dont's when buying an upper?

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UNKNOWN_370

Let me throw you some 300 blackout facts before you buy two uppers.

1. the 7.62 cal head on the 300 blkout is primed in a 5.56 shell.
2. Due to this 300 blkout fits in 5.56 mags with NO MODIFICATION
3. It runs on the same buffer tension,BCG and firing pin as the 5.56 without modification with subsoonic loads. Supersonic, may or may not? Need a stronger buffer spring? That you might want to research.
4. The only difference between a 5.56 and 300blkout rifle is the barrel.
5. AR platforms are highly modular so barrel changing is easy
6. Every accessory you buy for 5.56 Ar's works on 300 except the barrel

Save some money. You only need a second upper and different mags if you're going to make another AR in 6.5 or 6.8

.308 uses a seperate lower altogether

Hope this helps???

ImportConvert

I recommend staying with the .223/5.56 for your first AR. What are you hunting, deer? I take it you are in KC Missouri? What is the biggest, baddest animal you will hunt?

I currently keep "Brown Tip" (which is a 70gr TSX bullet loaded to 5.56 pressure, you can get it from SSA or ASYM if you don't have access to the .mil load) and know people who hunt with it. It typically expands to about .45-.5" and will penetrate 24-28" in game animals. I'm talking animals like Nilgai antelope, etc. I know a guy who harvests hogs from a helicopter by the hundreds each year, and this round has given him better performance on-target than M80 147gr .308 with a sample size of about 75 animals for each, on the hunt he formed his opinion on.

The other information you got about the 300BLK was also accurate by my understanding, as well. Just the barrel. That's it.

edub370

stuff is available.. just gotta do LOTS of searching. that VLTOR stock/buffer tube took me about 3 hours to find on the internet yesterday

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m4a1mustang

Being the good investor I am, I'm again considering selling my BCM for a 100%+ profit. Decisions...

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UNKNOWN_370

how many AR's do you own?

m4a1mustang

Just the one.

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UNKNOWN_370

Nah bro... Keep it. It's not worth losing. BCM is a good rifle and it will be hard to replace for a while.

Also, the BS that we're going through may drive up prices permanently. Maybe not to where they are now? But I think a base AR is going to start at $1000 instead of the $750 it was starting at 10 weeks ago before our president was re-elected. Your BCM is going up in value. But you may have features that may be outlawed? And you may have a grandfathered AR.

m4a1mustang

My view is that since the AWB was introduced today it might fuel further hysteria and drive prices up temporarily... good time to sell. If I sold I wouldn't really ever plan on buying one back, anyway.

Just so tempting to sell and profit.

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BlackZeda

I see a gun (handgun or assault rifle) the same way as I see a fire extinguisher; hopefully and probably I will never need to use it, but when I need it I will be surely glad that I at least have it.

It would be extremely gratifying to see the AWB go down in flames realizing that the government caused the gun industry to gain massive profits because of their knee-jerk stupidity.

m4a1mustang

I agree. I probably won't sell for that reason alone. However I will be pissed if I have to pay $200 and register mine with the ATF.

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UNKNOWN_370

What will you change your name to? .45acpmustang?

ImportConvert

Well, my two cases of SOCOM 5.56 "Optomized" 70gr "Brown Tip" came in today. Tested it against a cinderblock and against water/paper/water.

Cinderblock showed penetration through both sides, with VERY little energy remaining upon exit (it bounced off of a soft-cover 1" thick text-book after tearing/denting it heavily). Here is what the round looks like:

The round on the left punched the cinderblock. IN/out both sides, hit the book, dented/tore and bounced off.

The round in the middle is a pulled, unfired projectile.

The round on the right first hit a 3-1/4" thick 1/2gallon cardboard milk-carton full of water, immediately after, a 1" thick soft-cover dry text-book, and immediately after that, it penetrated fully through 2 gallons of water in the form of plastic 1-gallon conventional milk-jugs, and then was found in the bottom of the milk-jug behind them. It expanded to 0.32" by 0.49" at the minimum (measured the narrowest distance "between" the "petals") and maximum (measured across the farthest spanning "petals"). The hole in the cover of the book leads me to believe that it was fully expanded by the time it left the 3-1/4" thick milk-carton, as did the resounding SLAP! of it hitting said book (I was shooting suppressed and using electronic ear-pro. The "SLAP!" was insanely loud.) and it obliterating the cardboard milk carton.

All-in-all, it's a sick round and a great addition to my stash. It will run great out of my 10.5" SBR, and should expand effectively out past the 200 yard mark. Should run about 2475fps from that barrel and the effective expansion threshold is around 1800fps.



*Testing conducted from a 14.5" barrel at roughly 15 yards. As a size-reference, the pulled projectile mic's 1.038" in length.