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Does anyone else here own a Smith and Wesson 1911? I ask because this trigger is just frustrating. There is north/south slop and east west slop. Anybody have this experience

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Old 11-02-2011, 01:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone else here own a Smith and Wesson 1911? I ask because this trigger is just frustrating. There is north/south slop and east west slop. Anybody have this experience with the stainless steel and what aftermarket triggers worked for you? It makes it really really really difficult to not jerk the trigger with all the slop.
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Does anyone else here own a Smith and Wesson 1911? I ask because this trigger is just frustrating. There is north/south slop and east west slop. Anybody have this experience with the stainless steel and what aftermarket triggers worked for you? It makes it really really really difficult to not jerk the trigger with all the slop.
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Every 1911 is a little different, and just about all parts are file-to-fit.. you can't get a super tight weapon any other way. Mass manufacturers have resorted to using MIM parts and CNC to get the close tolerances needed for a minimal assembly time. I don't truly have any problem with MIM parts like some people. But when I'm spending 2k$ plus to build myself a pistol.. I'm choosing tool steel and filing to fit. The real problem with 'drop-in' parts is that they usually fit very badly, or at least not as close as I'd like.. if you can pick one up, shake it, and anything rattles.... a truly tight one won't make a single sound.

what do you think is causing the slop? I only buy triggers that I have to file to fit.. is it directly the trigger without any of the safeties disabled? If the shoe is a drop-in part done by the factory you might gain a much better fit by replacing it.. I'd get a trigger track stone at the same time and knock down any roughness in the channel.


that's an ok example of where I was smoothing...

and this shows the track


If you're not comfortable with the job and don't want to trust yourself with fully safety checking the weapon when you're done, I'd suggest having a smith do it. I'm just some guy on the internet with a 1911 building habit... a smith can probably make a much better trigger than most people, for less than the cost of the tools that are needed. Brownells will have everything that you need.

I'd recommend the Harrison Design stuff. I've used his triggers on both my builds, and he lived down the street from me. I used his entire ignition set on my first build, and a cylinder and slide ignition kit on the CCO. both came out with fantastic triggers.
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I've started using my leftover Redline synthetic from the Z. I have 3 quarts... which is going to be a lifetime supply for my AR and G26
Given the environment that a weapon lube has to perform in, I can't imagine how any of the expensive lubes like Frog or Slip could possibly perform any better than a quality synthetic engine oil.
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It would be interesting to send some samples of quality synthetic motor oil and the top gun lubricant to a lab for testing to see what the differences are, if any, in their lubricating properties. I can't imagine there's much at all.
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Want to volunteer as the guinea pig for that?? I would bet that it would work, although it seems that gun oil is a bit thinner than most motor oil.
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Depends on the gun oil I guess. Rem Oil that you can buy at Wally World is super thin, but some of the other stuff is a good bit thicker.
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Arrrgggg, this is so frustrating. The commemorative pistol purchase that we did with S&W is taking forever! The POC for our task force got the order submitted way back in February or March. Saw them take my payment in Approximately April. They were supposed to be ready for us to pick up when we returned in June. Then apparently there was a mixup at S&W, so our pistols got delayed until October, so they said they would send them to a Dealer here in El Paso. Well, it is now November and no word on our pistols. The NCO that is the rep has yet to hear anything new about the pistols. I'm about ready to ask S&W for my money back at this point.
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So i called S&W Customer service and they were very helpful. I was able to find out that our orders got pushed back due to a few key people that left and also because of the merger with Thompson Center. The expected delivery date for my pistol is 2 Dec 2011. I also found out that there are to orders and mine is part of the larger order. Hopefully all goes well and i have a new pistol for Christmas!
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So I just did the CHL class in order to actually be able to carry this pistol I bought and am still waiting for (hoping for an early December arrival). Question is what holster would you recommend. I want to get an IWB holster that I can place just behind my right hip (roughly between the side pocket on a pair of khaki pants and the butt pocket). I used a blackhawk Sherpa holster when I was deployed and could pretty easily conceal a Beretta 92FS in that spot, so I assume an M&P wouldn't be any different. One other thing is i would want a slight cant so the barrel is pointed towards the rear. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
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So I just did the CHL class in order to actually be able to carry this pistol I bought and am still waiting for (hoping for an early December arrival). Question is what holster would you recommend. I want to get an IWB holster that I can place just behind my right hip (roughly between the side pocket on a pair of khaki pants and the butt pocket). I used a blackhawk Sherpa holster when I was deployed and could pretty easily conceal a Beretta 92FS in that spot, so I assume an M&P wouldn't be any different. One other thing is i would want a slight cant so the barrel is pointed towards the rear. Any suggestions on where to start looking?
Look at Comp-Tac. The MTAC IWB holster is what I use and it is fantastic. Very comfortable and concealable. Also very well made and the turnaround time is pretty quick.

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