Yea sometime in the future. But I need to find some decent price ones. I don't think I want pay an arm and a leg to get any optics. I already spent tons of money on my AR. I really like the acog optics but I can't drop that kind of money.

i currently have an m4 and a scar h. a few more xp points to get to level 70 and i will aquire an ak47.

True, if you buy factory, most of the ammo I get is military surplus that I find at gun shows, got a few ammo cans for $50 apiece, easily over 100 rounds, not bad!

I want one of these
http://www.discountgunsales.com/images/P/Socom%2016.jpg

SOCOM 16? Nice.

buutttt....I just ordered one of these :tup: dealer also threw in magpul font/rear flip up sights with $20 off of them. She will be sent from their distributor, then held in their kennel on layaway for three months or sooner if I pay her off:excited:. Now, what optic should I get ????:confused:
http://www.fnrifles.us/rsr/SA3L_1.jpg

Anybody have a Springfield XD/M? I have a couple of S&W M&Ps and I'm thinking about an XD in 9mm.

I got one, I'd say they are about the same as the M&P, changing the backstrap is PITA and I do like the M&P ambi slide release. I don't know what all comes with the M&P but SA packages the xdm well: 2mags, mad loader, lock, dual mag holder and paddle holster. They are priced around the $600 I believe. I say try to rent one for a day and see how it compares to your current handguns. I'm not the best shot, but I do wish I had more time on some gun I rented so I could give an honest comparo. Any other Q's?

Cool thanks, I love my M&Ps. I have a full size and a compact. The compact has a crimson trace laser on it. The only thing that makes me nervous is the lack of any safety. When carrying concealed I'd prefer to carry chambered, but I worry about something snagging when it's tucked IWB and blasting a hole in my hip. The Springfield and some others they have trigger and grip safeties which is appealing. Thoughts?

I dont have a CHL, but I the grip safety is fine IMO if carrying. Some people think that it is unnecessary addon, but its not like it will interfere with anything if you grip your gun right. You grip it, it goes bang. I does add that extra sense of security if carrying they also included I believe a block for the striking pin just incase you accidently drop it. I've also added an after market trigger kit, and all the safetys work properly. As far as the trigger safety goes, as long as it's not depressed it wont let the trigger move.

I like the XDm, but it it's kind of a weird gun imo. The frame is compact sized, but the magazine is still huge, too big for CC, well for me anyway. If they made a 10-12 shot XDm I'd be all over it.

well they are coming out with a xdm in .45 :tup: prob. 13-14 rds. of that lovable round is my speculation.

That's what my FNP-45 is for. 14+1 rounds of .45 FTW!

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1267028851

my hk has no safety and do carry at the hip chambered all the times with no worries

Safeties
 

I carried a firearm for 10 years as an LEO and never had a safety. Safeties can be like stop signs in that they create a false sense of security. Traffic studies done in America tend to show that when yield signs are replaced by stop signs, accidents at those locations actually go up. Drivers begin to let down their guard because they assume everyone will stop. Not having a safety conditions one to go through a mental checklist or protocol with regard to how they handle the weapon. For summer I usually carry a Kahr MK40 with no safeties at all. It has never been a problem. I know I cannot place finger on trigger unless I am ready to exert pressure and that means I am in the process of shooting it. I am not knocking safeties or those who want them. Most of my guns come with them but I wouldn't be too worried about guns that come without them. Practice and work with the piece and you won't have a problem.

Yeah I have no problem keeping my finger off the trigger, I just worry about clothing or something else getting in there and pulling the trigger. How common is that? I have not heard of many ND while holstered, but I know it has happened.

Shouldn't be a problem if you're using a good holster. What are you using? Have you ever tried a Comp-Tac Infidel? That's what I usually use for my EDC.

Link to Comp-Tac Infidel.

Inside Waistband Holsters - products new home - The Infidel Holster

I have the Minotaur MTAC Holster. You think that one is good to go? I'm not trying to be paranoid, I just really respect my guns and don't want be a cripple. :ugh2:

Depends. Let me explain. I also have a Crossbreed, which is basically the exact same design as the MTAC. If I'm going to be out for an extended period of time, I use the Crossbreed because it's more comfortable for long-term carry with the way it distributes the weight across a larger area. But if I know I'm going to be in a situation where I'll be taking my gun off and putting it back on more frequently, then I use my Infidel. Why? Because I can remove the entire thing from my gun belt as a single gun-in-holster unit. The gun never comes out of the holster, which is a plus in terms of reducing the risk of accidentally pulling the trigger or swiping the safety off (I carry a 1911). I don't know about you, but when I unmount my pistol while using a Crossbreed/MTAC type holster, I take the gun out of the holster, then separately pull the holster out. And now that I think about it, you know what I do when I come home and pull my gun out of my Crossbreed? I immediately reholster it into my Infidel because I want that trigger and safety secured against accidental contact. Now, if you're able to remove your MTAC with your pistol still in it, then I guess trigger exposure is less of an issue for you than it is for me when I take off my Crossbreed.

Does that make sense? I sense I may be rambling. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you're planning to frequently put your pistol on, then take it off, then put it on again, something like the Infidel may be a better choice. It's easier to put on / take off, and it keeps the trigger enclosed within the holster during removal and subsequent handling.

i kinda like that c-tac holster!!!!

:iagree: I speak from experience when I say that a safety really messes me up, especially since I've never had a safety on any guns I carried.

So I got a Ruger LCP in 380. Seems like a nice little gun and will work great on the ankle.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...tin/ruger1.jpg

Looks very nice:tiphat:!

I rented an LCP to try it out once. Not my cup of tea, but it's a nice gun none the less. Have you tried finding carry ammo for it yet? Finding .380 ammo is somewhat challenging nowadays.

nvm. I just spotted the carry round in your picture. I guess you found some! :tup:

I'm currently using this as my lil pocket rocket, KelTec P3AT .380, with CorBon DPX 80gr. Theyre the deepest penetrating .380 ever developed, have been tested to penetrate 12" + through denim and tissue, thats 9mm territory, not too bad! And life savers, yumm!

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...g?t=1267193943

Yeah, I looked at five different 380s yesterday and none of them were perfect. The long trigger pull really takes some getting used to.
I still love my M&Pc for concealed carry, but when I'm just running out for a loaf of bread I don't want to put on a larger pair of jeans, a belt and then my IWB. This I slap on my ankle and be done.

The ammo shortage hasn't been too bad, the gun shop had both target ammo and the gold dot. They were $18 for target ammo and $20 for the gold dots.

I'm trying to get me one but everytime something comes up.

Like now I have to get $850 to paid for what is not cover by my deductible to replace my Heat Pump and Furnace. :mad:

In addition I need to get some stuff done to the Z before Zday. ;)

Get which one? :confused:

Try finding good 40 S&W ammo.

A Glock or Taurus. Shoot an used Glock about to weeks ago, pretty good. They were asking like $539 because it had some night "something". I'm not looking for nothing fancy just for protection in case is need it.

And go to the range and blow some steam. ;)

It's in abundance in my area. In fact, I personally have 150 rounds of carry ammo (2 boxes of Federal HST and 1 box of Winchester Ranger) and 100 rounds of target ammo sitting unused, as I no longer have a .40 in my collection.

Night "something"??? Night sights, maybe? $539 is a good price for a Glock with night sights. Taurus are garbage, IMO.

I used to be a glock guy until I bought a Smith and Wesson M&P, the ergonomics are far superior, have proven to be more reliable as per the 50,000 round torture test with zero failures, and the balance on the hand feels better. They cost around the same as well. I own 3:tup:

^well if you own 3 then give him 1, am i right?

I have two M&Ps. LOVE them.

Very nice, I have the .357c, .40, and 9mm Pro for competition, as much as I love the compact, its still a bit large and cumbersome to carry in the summer, save that one for the winter time, I can carry the P3AT in my basketball shorts, haha, love that little thing.

I have the 9 full size and the compact with CT laser. The compact is a little large, that's why I wanted a smaller 380 to supplement it with.

Yeah, thats it night sights. The whisky obscures my memory. :tup: