Anyone here into firearms?

kdo2milger · 06-28-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

XDs are sweet and have a fantastic reputation. I was set on getting the XD9SC before I bought my G26. I rented one at the range and didn't quite like the way it felt shooting. The Glock pointed better in my hand. But the XD is still an awesome gun. I'd go check one out if I were you.

ya, i need to check them out at the PX when i get back before i make the plunge on this one...

i think this one would be good for my wife because i hear it has very little recoil...

m4a1mustang · 06-28-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

ya, i need to check them out at the PX when i get back before i make the plunge on this one...

i think this one would be good for my wife because i hear it has very little recoil...

The problem with the subcompacts is you don't get a full three-finger grip unless you have a pinky extension on the mag, so recoil can be more difficult to manage than you'd expect.

I only have the G26 so it's not as snappy as a .40, but even still it takes a bit of practice to get used to shooting with the short grip. But after time with it it doesn't bother me at all. My GF, though, hates shooting it without the pinky extensions.

kdo2milger · 06-28-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The problem with the subcompacts is you don't get a full three-finger grip unless you have a pinky extension on the mag, so recoil can be more difficult to manage than you'd expect.

I only have the G26 so it's not as snappy as a .40, but even still it takes a bit of practice to get used to shooting with the short grip. But after time with it it doesn't bother me at all. My GF, though, hates shooting it without the pinky extensions.

looks like one of the mags with the xd gear is an extended mag, is this what your talking about?

Isamu · 06-28-2011, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

looks like one of the mags with the xd gear is an extended mag, is this what your talking about?

kdo2milger · 06-28-2011, 05:27 PM

heres a better pic of the magazine

m4a1mustang · 06-28-2011, 05:37 PM

Yeah that's one of the extended mags. I think they also make the pinky extensions that don't add extra rounds for the XDs.

kdo2milger · 06-28-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah that's one of the extended mags. I think they also make the pinky extensions that don't add extra rounds for the XDs.

is this what your talking about?

m4a1mustang · 06-28-2011, 06:04 PM

This is what I'm talking about: 11593 - Springfield XD Grip Extension Black

kdo2milger · 06-30-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

This is what I'm talking about: 11593 - Springfield XD Grip Extension Black

thanks for the link...saved for future purchase

m4a1mustang · 06-30-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

thamks for the link...saved for future purchase

No problemo. I love the Pearce grip extension on one of my G26 mags. It's what I carry in the gun when I can get away with the added length of the grip... so fall/spring/winter.

eddieconfetti · 06-30-2011, 01:16 PM

so im guessing springfield is a good gun?? springfield or sig???

MacCool · 06-30-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by eddieconfetti

so im guessing springfield is a good gun?? springfield or sig???

Springfield is reputed to be "OK". Sig...they aren't really the company they used to be. Since manufacturing and design for the US market has been taken over by SigArms, QA has become problematic. The German Sigs are still top notch...US-made Sigs, not so much. I've had my P229 since 1996. It's seen an exceptional pistol and utterly reliable. I wouldn't buy a Sig these days, though. I see heaps of armorer frustration in the law enforcement market with the current versions of Sig's pistols.

dad · 07-08-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Springfield is reputed to be "OK". Sig...they aren't really the company they used to be. Since manufacturing and design for the US market has been taken over by SigArms, QA has become problematic. The German Sigs are still top notch...US-made Sigs, not so much. I've had my P229 since 1996. It's seen an exceptional pistol and utterly reliable. I wouldn't buy a Sig these days, though. I see heaps of armorer frustration in the law enforcement market with the current versions of Sig's pistols.

State Troopers/ Highway Patrol don't seem to have a problem choosing/using Sig's!

state ~ make/model ~ caliber
AL ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
AK ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
AZ ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
AR ~ Glock 21SF ~ .45ACP
CA ~ S&W Model 4006TSW ~ .40S&W
CO ~ S&W M&P40 ~ .40S&W
CT ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
DE ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
FL ~ Glock 37Gen4 ~ .45GAP
GA ~ Glock 37 ~ .45GAP
HI ~ S&W Model 5906 ~ 9x19mm
ID ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
IL ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
IN ~ Glock 17 ~ 9x19mm
IA ~ S&W M&P40 ~ .40S&W
KS ~ Glock 21 ~ .45ACP
KY ~ Glock 35 ~ .40S&W
LA ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
ME ~ H&K USP45 ~ .45ACP
MD ~ Beretta PX4 ~ .40S&W
MA ~ SIG P226 ~ .40S&W
MI ~ SIG P226 ~ .40S&W
MN ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
MS ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
MO ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
MT ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
NE ~ Glock 21 ~ .45ACP
NV ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
NH ~ S&W M&P45 ~ .45ACP
NJ ~ SIG P228 ~ 9x19mm
NM ~ S&W M&P357 ~ .357SIG
NY ~ Glock 37 ~ .45GAP
NC ~ S&W M&P357 ~ .357SIG
ND ~ S&W Model 4506 ~ .45ACP
OK ~ SIG P226 ~ .357SIG
OH ~ SIG P226 ~ .40S&W
OR ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
PA ~ Glock 37 ~ .45GAP
RI ~ SIG P226 ~ .357SIG
SC ~ Glock 37 ~ .45GAP
SD ~ SIG P229 ~ .357SIG
TN ~ Glock 31 ~ .357SIG
TX ~ SIG P226 ~ .357SIG
UT ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
VT ~ SIG P229 ~ .40S&W
VA ~ SIG P229 ~ .357SIG
WA ~ S&W M&P40 ~ .40S&W
WV ~ S&W Model 4566TSW ~ .45ACP
WI ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W
WY ~ Glock 22 ~ .40S&W

caliber breakdown
9x19mm = 3 (6%)
.357SIG = 8 (16%
.40S&W = 27 (54%)
.45GAP = 5 (10%)
.45ACP = 7 (14%)

MacCool · 07-08-2011, 04:50 PM

If only those firearms purchasing decisions were being made by the actual end-users and armorers according to maintenance requirements and reliability instead of by the bean counters more concerned about their department's budget. Firearms purchases by law enforcement organizations is always low-bid. Performance and reliability takes a back seat. Glock in particular has moved away from their previously aggressive department pricing. Sig is desperate to get into the market. Looks like they dropped their prices but maintained their margins by cutting quality. Their current problems with quality control since Ron Cohen took over as CEO are well-known.

Ron Cohen was the CEO at Kimber before SigArms hired him, if that tells you anything.

dad · 07-08-2011, 05:43 PM

Never heard of Ron Cohen, and Kimber's unless you go to L.A., are non existent around here.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Yeah that's one of the extended mags. I think they also make the pinky extensions that don't add extra rounds for the XDs. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	This is what I'm talking about: 11593 - Springfield XD Grip Extension Black __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 17	If only those firearms purchasing decisions were being made by the actual end-users and armorers according to maintenance requirements and reliability instead of by the bean counters more concerned about their department's budget. Firearms purchases by law enforcement organizations is always low-bid. Performance and reliability takes a back seat. Glock in particular has moved away from their previously aggressive department pricing. Sig is desperate to get into the market. Looks like they dropped their prices but maintained their margins by cutting quality. Their current problems with quality control since Ron Cohen took over as CEO are well-known. Ron Cohen was the CEO at Kimber before SigArms hired him, if that tells you anything. Last edited by MacCool; 07-08-2011 at 05:07 PM.

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dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	Never heard of Ron Cohen, and Kimber's unless you go to L.A., are non existent around here. __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

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eddieconfetti A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Duluth, GA Posts: 3,334 Drives: A Totaled PW Z Rep Power: 24	so im guessing springfield is a good gun?? springfield or sig???