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UNKNOWN_370 01-25-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2129789)
But we also lose the ability to transport our weapons out of state without prior ATF permission. And there are all sorts of issues about possession. No one can touch it without being under your supervision. And we'd only be allowed to have one "feature".

Thats true. Tax stamped weapons are highly controlled. It would pretty much make it a SHTF gun only, sport and defense while traveling will become complicated. There's nothing like an AR/AK when you're driving out through back country.

I would hate to lose that right and be driving in an unpoliced Danger Zone where evil doers don't follow GC laws. People back home in the east don't really know what it's like driving through the desert at 2am. If they did? They'd understand the need for civilian AR's. I'm one Yankee that learned that in my first 9 months in Tx. The AR is the most versatile and useful rifle.

It's fun- so many types of sport the design qualifies for.
Its light and compact. Maneuverable and lightweight enough for men, women, responsibly taught children, the elderly and disabled can still safely fire, while still carrying relatively good defensive stopping power.

Its very accurate for its size. 300yrd game hunting from a 14.5/16" barrel. Not many rifles can claim that @ those sizes.

Versatile, from hunting to defense, it fits the build. And Everyone should own one. It's the national rifle. Really, I don't get it.

UNKNOWN_370 01-25-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2129896)
so what would this do to the parts market? anyone can order any parts and make a gun how they want right now. will that not be so in the future?

This is a hard thing GC can affect our right and sport in a number of ways. Last I heard this morning. The current bill proposed has a grandfather clause. So that's a small hint of good news.

Sucks for people that don't already own though.

they sure are good at stimulating our countries economy. See the tactic behind this gun drama? lol

Thinking about it, 68 86 94 and 2013 are all bad economy years.

DEpointfive0 01-25-2013 12:26 PM

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edub370 01-25-2013 01:23 PM

anyone know where a good free float complete upper (barrel included) can be had on the net right now?

ImportConvert 01-25-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2129713)
Thats the first time I ever heard of a 5.56 round going completely through a cinderblock. Do you have video or at least photo of the block? This is an interesting round.
Who makes the Brown-tip? Penetration is unlike most 5.56 ammo and on a borderline, decent bullet weight

I can take photos of the block in a few days, it's not at my apartment, lol.

I cannot tell you who makes Brown Tip, but I can tell you that Barnes manufactures the projectile.

I have put XM556FBIT3 and M855 through cinderblock, as well, but they are not near as consistent. Still, even the brown-tip just "made it through". It certainly wouldn't be lethal on the other side from what I saw. More like UGLY! bruise.

BlackZeda 01-25-2013 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2130257)
anyone know where a good free float complete upper (barrel included) can be had on the net right now?

Even before the gun grabbing hysteria broke out it was difficult to get high quality (Daniels Defense, LMT, Noveske etc...) uppers or even parts. It took me about 4 months to put together a Noveske so for the next AR I just went an bought a complete LMT. Probably the best chance of getting a decent complete upper would be at a gun show.

m4a1mustang 01-26-2013 08:04 AM

So looks like I'll be helping my boss pick an AR to order next week. He waited too long but doesn't mind spending the money. They have some good NIB stuff floating around if you're willing to pay up for it.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2129789)
But we also lose the ability to transport our weapons out of state without prior ATF permission. And there are all sorts of issues about possession. No one can touch it without being under your supervision. And we'd only be allowed to have one "feature".

This is what I'm worried about. I can't afford to own any weapons that tie me into a state. I'm actually planning on moving everything I own to CA-compliant...which sucks

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2131799)
This is what I'm worried about. I can't afford to own any weapons that tie me into a state. I'm actually planning on moving everything I own to CA-compliant...which sucks

That really does suck. I like all the people I have met from CA, and I can google images as well as anyone, but I just could not live there. I'm leaving Louisiana, but California is certainly not on my list. What draws you there? I guess everyone has priorities.

m4a1mustang 01-26-2013 10:54 AM

Unfortunately for me work might one day draw me to NY/NYC. At least for now I'm grounded in gun-friendly VA, however Northern VA is increasingly anti as the years go by.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2131831)
That really does suck. I like all the people I have met from CA, and I can google images as well as anyone, but I just could not live there. I'm leaving Louisiana, but California is certainly not on my list. What draws you there? I guess everyone has priorities.

Nothing in particular besides money.

I'm not on track to go there, but my job is extremely unpredictable.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 04:46 PM

shot a Spring XDs today with the wife. Think we might go with it for her carry piece. Gun was surprisingly easy to handle for a thin, light .45

My only worry is the 5+1 capacity. It's not terrible but I'd rather have a couple more bullets.

XD-S Compact 45ACP Pistol | Springfield Armory USA

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...o/4264bdd3.jpg

Rooster89 01-26-2013 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2132247)
shot a Spring XDs today with the wife. Think we might go with it for her carry piece. Gun was surprisingly easy to handle for a thin, light .45

My only worry is the 5+1 capacity. It's not terrible but I'd rather have a couple more bullets.

XD-S Compact 45ACP Pistol | Springfield Armory USA

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...o/4264bdd3.jpg

I'm totally biased but has she tried a defender/commander 1911?

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 2132276)
I'm totally biased but has she tried a defender/commander 1911?

the 1911 grip doesn't really fit well in her hand. we also prefer not to have an external hammer for a carry piece.

Rooster89 01-26-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2132279)
the 1911 grip doesn't really fit well in her hand. we also prefer not to have an external hammer for a carry piece.

I understand that one. It took me a while to get my draw down. Luckily, like most things including cigars, I took Steve's advice on a holster and it works all the difference in the world.

:tup: Hope she finds something perfect for her!

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 2132283)
I understand that one. It took me a while to get my draw down. Luckily, like most things including cigars, I took Steve's advice on a holster and it works all the difference in the world.

:tup: Hope she finds something perfect for her!

I don't mind the external hammer for OWB carry, but I tend to get **** all dirty when it stays in my pants

:ugh2:

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 2131896)
Nothing in particular besides money.

I'm not on track to go there, but my job is extremely unpredictable.

I'm going to end up taking about a $40K/year pay-cut to leave Louisiana. Some things are worth more than money.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2132305)
I'm going to end up taking about a $40K/year pay-cut to leave Louisiana. Some things are worth more than money.

Absolutely agree.

At the same time, I'm willing to make short term sacrifices to accomplish long term goals. Living in Alabama wasn't high on my list. Colorado is nice, and I'd be happy to stay here, but I fully expect to average a new state every two years, until I'm at least 30. Easier for me to move without "cool" guns.

w0rM 01-26-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2132305)
I'm going to end up taking about a $40K/year pay-cut to leave Louisiana. Some things are worth more than money.

Louisiana sucks... I'm outta here as soon as my GF graduates engineering school.

m4a1mustang 01-26-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 2132283)
I understand that one. It took me a while to get my draw down. Luckily, like most things including cigars, I took Steve's advice on a holster and it works all the difference in the world.

:tup: Hope she finds something perfect for her!

:tup:

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2132464)
:tup:

Steve, watchu think about the XDs?

m4a1mustang 01-26-2013 08:28 PM

Nice gun.

If you are looking for single stacks I'd also take a look at the Kahr P, CW, PM, and CM line. They are really nice and come in a variety of calibers.

I have a CM9 that I carry when my G26 is too big. It has 6+1 capacity so I always carry a spare mag in my pocket.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2132495)
Nice gun.

If you are looking for single stacks I'd also take a look at the Kahr P, CW, PM, and CM line. They are really nice and come in a variety of calibers.

I have a CM9 that I carry when my G26 is too big. It has 6+1 capacity so I always carry a spare mag in my pocket.

Yeah, kahr's were nice. They didn't have a .45 for us to try though. Need to find a place with one.

Red__Zed 01-26-2013 08:31 PM

Daniel Defense M4 v1 Carbine 5.56 NATO

For the folks willing to pay the markup...in stock. Seriously considering even though I know it's a ripoff

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2132456)
Louisiana sucks... I'm outta here as soon as my GF graduates engineering school.

Yeah, and you live in the "good" part. Where I live is total trash. I just dont date because i don't want to get stuck here, I dont like the women here and they dont like me.

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 09:30 PM

On topic, I'm loving my m&p 9 shield.

JNews86 01-26-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2132456)
Louisiana sucks... I'm outta here as soon as my GF graduates engineering school.

Move to NY. THen you can complain about gun laws here lol

JNews86 01-26-2013 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 2132495)
Nice gun.

If you are looking for single stacks I'd also take a look at the Kahr P, CW, PM, and CM line. They are really nice and come in a variety of calibers.

I have a CM9 that I carry when my G26 is too big. It has 6+1 capacity so I always carry a spare mag in my pocket.

Glock 26 too big? Never heard that before!

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JNews86 (Post 2132647)
Move to NY. THen you can complain about gun laws here lol

Ny is insanely beautiful, but the laws there are crap. I'm headed to Fayetteville, ar, myself. If you like big cities it wont work, but I like smaller, layed back, mellow, and lots of greenery and streams. U of A keeps the town fresh.

ImportConvert 01-26-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JNews86 (Post 2132648)
Glock 26 too big? Never heard that before!

It's thick and prints depending on clothing and carry method. This is why I love my shield.

w0rM 01-26-2013 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JNews86 (Post 2132647)
Move to NY. THen you can complain about gun laws here lol

lol eh, no thanks... Austin Texas or bust

w0rM 01-26-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2132574)
Yeah, and you live in the "good" part. Where I live is total trash. I just dont date because i don't want to get stuck here, I dont like the women here and they dont like me.

I lived up there for about a year and you're right. A year was all I could stand.

ImportConvert 01-27-2013 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by w0rM (Post 2132749)
I lived up there for about a year and you're right. A year was all I could stand.

Yeah, this is literally the worst place I have ever been. The only thing is that I love my job and the pay is stellar. I'm buying all my class 3 toys, etc now, and when I move all ill have is rent and a car note. Want to put 1/2 down on 30-40 acres, pay it off in a year, and build a house the next year if I'm still liking fayetteville. Would love to do vtac barracade drills in my back yard.

UNKNOWN_370 01-27-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2130933)
I can take photos of the block in a few days, it's not at my apartment, lol.

I cannot tell you who makes Brown Tip, but I can tell you that Barnes manufactures the projectile.

I have put XM556FBIT3 and M855 through cinderblock, as well, but they are not near as consistent. Still, even the brown-tip just "made it through". It certainly wouldn't be lethal on the other side from what I saw. More like UGLY! bruise.

Would definitely be interested in photos.

Throwing this out there. Wollf Springs has xtra AR power recoil springs for sale. Just bought 3 yesterday.

GrandZ45 01-27-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2132999)
Yeah, this is literally the worst place I have ever been.

Known as "Shrevepit" in my house, or just "The Pit". But I lived in Arkansas once long ago. Didn't see much difference other than the scenery--that and a personal property tax. I don't know what the gun laws are now but when I was there it was illegal to carry a loaded weapon in your car unless you were "traveling". Louisiana was more respectful of individual rights in that respect.

GrandZ45 01-27-2013 08:24 PM

car carry
 
Speaking of which. Have had the Z about 7 weeks now and still can't figure out where to keep a car gun in it. Could put a snubby in the glove box but leaning over to get it in a pinch is a "tell" that could get me hurt. Same with reaching behind the passenger seat which is also problematic due to a bad shoulder (unless there is some way to secure it down low)

Thought about attaching a left handed holster to the shiny cross bar under the seat which would be ready at hand without being obvious but that seems dangerous in an accident--might break loose and fly up under my feet.

Could put a mouse gun or subcompact in the center console but don't own one that small and it isn't a good time to be a buyer now. Prefer large frame revolver or full size semi-auto.

What is left? Do I need to get a permit and just hang it on myself? Any ideas?

tranceformer 01-27-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 2132597)
On topic, I'm loving my m&p 9 shield.

+1

it even fits into the same comp-tac holster that i bought for my m&p9c, one less to buy!

m4a1mustang 01-27-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JNews86 (Post 2132648)
Glock 26 too big? Never heard that before!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...vsg26front.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e...9vsg26side.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...9vsg26back.jpg

And in the summer, sometimes it's nice to slip this in your front pocket when you run out for a bit.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V...ketholster.jpg

ImportConvert 01-28-2013 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2133783)
Would definitely be interested in photos.

Throwing this out there. Wollf Springs has xtra AR power recoil springs for sale. Just bought 3 yesterday.

Milspec only on my stuff. Pix in a day or two.

ImportConvert 01-28-2013 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandZ45 (Post 2133803)
Known as "Shrevepit" in my house, or just "The Pit". But I lived in Arkansas once long ago. Didn't see much difference other than the scenery--that and a personal property tax. I don't know what the gun laws are now but when I was there it was illegal to carry a loaded weapon in your car unless you were "traveling". Louisiana was more respectful of individual rights in that respect.

Where did you live in AR? Up near MO, it is different than littlerock and below.

I like Arkansas laws, they are much more class three friendly. I have a ccw and that's all you need to carry loaded in the vehicle.


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