damn yoochube lol
i do need to leave BOFA though damn fees are killing me

My first AR build..

waiting on my stripped lower to get done (got in on a group buy)

parts waiting to be installed stored in my closet:
- Geissele Super Semi-Automatic Enhanced SSA-E Two StageTrigger
- DPMS Lower Parts Kit
- Magpul MOE Grip
- Magpul MOE Trigger Guard
- Magpul STR Stock
- Battle Arms Development Ambidextrous Safety Selector
- PSA Complete 6 Position Mil-Spec Diameter Buffer Tube Assembly

can't wait!

yeah, been bummed out. was waiting out buying until after things settled down with my new house, looks like I missed out

Not trying to be an Azz but just a heads up the admin doesn't want any political talk on this thread.

Will this be your first AR if you ever get a chance to get one?

Its not truly political, its just informative. Were it in the automotive section of this site, it would be similar to discussing new safety regulations or CAFE restrictions.

First "real" AR


I briefly owned a beat to hell bushmaster that I bought for like $400 and resold a week later.

We report, you decide. :hello:

I'm not trying to stir any particular political pot, merely inform the posters in this subforum of on-topic information.

Indeed. Lots of movement in Washington that can directly impact our firearms ownership that we need to be aware of.

When you get the lower back, check the mag well first thing, make sure your magazines all drop free easily. Some of these group buys are getting lowers that are labeled as blems, but are actually out-of-spec. CMMG has been notorious for that. In their defense, CMMG does label them as out of spec, but the distributers do not and they go to dealers that think they're just cosmetic blems. OTOH, one could wonder why CMMG is selling out-of-spec lowers at all instead of just trashing them like a quality mfgr would do. Given the intense buying pressure in the current environment, some of the less scrupulous mfgrs are letting some seriously QA-impaired stuff out the door.

Also, DPMS LPK's tend to be Chinese imports. Check to make sure you're not having trouble with the bolt-catch and mag release...they have a tendency to be out of spec. The biggest problem in such LPK's, however, is usually the safety selector. The B.A.D.A.S.S that you chose instead, however is absolutely top notch.

The group buy should be good quality forgings...its was a CalGuns Foundation Donation Group Buy. Its not something that the company had lying around. They're actually being forged just for the group buy.

As for the mag release, I have to use a Bullet Button here in cali so I'll be using the Raddlock instead of the one that comes with the kit. I'll keep an eye on the bolt catch though thanks

Another problem is, I have no damn magazine to check the mag well :facepalm:

Unfortunately it's not the forgings that are problematic, it's the machining, then the QA that the final mfgr applies in passing or rejecting the finished product.

Are these lowers being made by Addax?

yes its the addax group buy

I have 2 built lowers and no upper. Regret selling my old stag 5.56 model 2T. :( Sold it last year to buy some handguns. ..never thought this day would come. Double price uppers, some are 2.5x the price. Over $2,400 for an $1,200 colt. Damn.

Saw a DPMS panther lite for $1600 today... lol would you believe that?

Given the current environment I think if you can get a top tier AR for around 2500 you're doing OK. I don't see prices coming down quickly if an AWB is shot down. All of the near term supply is gone and I don't think that many will end up on consignment shelves.

If we see a 10 round limit on magazine capacity take effect in the future, would any of you 9mm guys think about moving up to .40 or .45?

I realize limiting a G17 or G19 to only 10 rounds really makes no sense. Why carry 10 rounds of 9mm when you could carry 10 of something bigger?

The way i see it is shot placent...doesnt matter if youre carrying bigger caliber if you cant shoot it straight.

On another note i live in commie fornia where theres a 10rd limit but i have 23rnd mags for my G34...

I would move completely to single stack .45.

It would actually be a good excuse to get a few more 1911s

I'm already carrying a 10rd +1 40 most days I can get away with it...

it's not being able to order Mags for my Glock 34 that is a little upsetting:mad:

Do you have a clear understanding of what they mean by the 10 round limit? Does that mean new weapons and magazines can't have more than a 10 round capacity, or that actually carrying or shooting a weapon with more than 10 rounds would be illegal?

I don't see where any legislation has been introduced into either house that specifically addresses magazine capacity. All we have so far is Diane Feinstein's declared intent, wherein she proposes: AFAIK, nobody has seen any specific bill (yet), so that actual language isn't available. IOW, we don't know what any such bill looks like, or how it will be modified in committee, or what the final voted bill says, or how it will be reconciled in Conference Committee with any House bill that might get submitted, modified, and passed.

In the Democrat-controlled Senate, Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said the following about Feinstein's proposal concepts:

It's not even certain that Senator Leahy (Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee and "C"-rated by the NRA) will even let Feinstein's bill on the Committee floor for debate.

The one hooker in the deal relative to the Judiciary Committee is if Senator Feinstein gets the chairmanship. Reportedly, Senator Leahy wants the Chairmanship of the Senate Approprations Committee, now vacant after Senator Inouye's death. That would leave Judicary open for Feinstein, who is a very senior senator. THEN her bill might get a hearing before the committee, but given Harry Reid's position, it's not clear how much traction it will get, or whether he will let it on the floor for a vote if it does pass committee.

Even if it did get to the Senate floor, it's far from clear that it would pass. And even if it did pass, it's highly unlikely any companion bill would pass the House.

The problem with all of this is whether compromises might take place to get something passed. IMHO, the focal point of any such compromise could be magazine capacities. Depending on many factors such a magazine capacity limit might or might not include a grandfather clause like the 1994 AWB had in it.

Wheels within wheels. Bottom line--we just don't know anything about magazine capacities yet and rampant speculation is way, way premature.

You know how many idiots are racking their credit cards buying guns they don't need by the dozen just to horde and gouge in the future??? People will have to sell half of what they're buying just to pay bills... lol
Just mentioning without a political agenda to my comment. Now that i see the general reaction to the proposals, I'm not worried about a ban per say. The thing to buy is mags and AR stocks. They might try to make us use fixed stocks??? .

Do what i'm doing now. Thursday night i said fvck it and started ordering upper parts I'm just buying parts. I ordered a 6.8 barrel, a magpul forward stock and later i will buy an Adams arms piston sytem, last thing i will need is a BCG,upper and upper parts kit. I estimate $1100 in parts total, but i think i will have a rifle worth about $1900-2200 in a normal market when i'm done'

I have 2 lowers i built myself. Some parts you can get little buy little. And an AR is a fvckin easy build. Just a few PITA areas on the lower, difficulty level i think is a 6 out of 10.

"Frankenguns"...AR15's assembled from parts... generally net a very low return in a normal marketplace. Usually one is much better off to disassemble and sell the parts separately.

Doubtful. Acquiring mazagzines might make more sense, but only if greater-than-10-rounders are grandfathered, which is not the way Diane Feinstein is leaning. One could spend a lot of money in the current marketplace to acquire a lot of high-capacity magazines only to find that they are all illegal...which is what happened in New York last week.

We'll see what happens. Really wish I had a free lower right now.

Can't get magazines with more than 10 rounds? My 3D printer says otherwise.

What is it with this magic number 10? As if that makes any kind of difference. The magic bullet that counts is your vote. Use it.

I meant performance wise. The equivalent in features and performance. Also, that seriously depends which parts you build it with. If most of your gun is a DPMS/CMMG kit,stag upper parts and your only upgrades is Barrel and trigger and some tacticool crap on it.... It won't net much.

But if you use a CMT/Barrett lower on a LWRC parts kit, American Gold/Geisselle trigger, Troy Sights/ Adams arms foregrip and possibly an AApiston system, throw in Magpul miad grips, Magpul CTR/ACS stock FN/Green moutain or Wison combat barrel. Cerakote your parts and pay attention to detail.

I bet my gun wil be more sought after. Frankenguns are usually better anyway, because you can suit everything to your taste. And you don't have to worry if your gun every breaks down, cuz you will know exactly how to fix it. No one has quality control better gthan you. thats why i build my own lowers, cuz even on expensive guns. Lowers are usually shyt. Well manufactured Mil-spec parts most of the time fit like a glove. Very little retrofitting has to be done when using quality parts.

This point to me is pointless and means nothing to me in terms of the fact that, the high cap mags may become illegal and NOT grandfathered. But our second amendment can't be changed so I'm not breaking the law. The law-makers are. That said. This comment means nothing imho. I can lock my mags away and keep doing what im doing currently to support my rights.

But if there's a SHTF scenario. i'm sure my neighbors will be glad i had 20 hi cap mags for each of my guns. Regardless of law.

That's not actually true. The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd Amendment CAN be restricted. A magazine capacity limit, if passed by Congress, would be 100% lawful, and you would be 100% breaking the law.

Here's hoping his mental state is not questionable...:nutswinger:

I know this has been talked about like a billions of times but here goes.

So we know there are piston and DI ar15 rifles. They both have a metal rod that pushes the bolt back right?

One of the differences is that most of the gases escapes at the front or the barrel area on a piston rifle and most of the gases goes in the lower rec area on a DI ar.

So why does these companies has to make a proprietary bolt? Couldn't they use the same bolt design? I don't know what that part is called that's on top of the bolt where the rod pushes the bolt back. Please school me on this.

You are mistaken...The DI has a gas tube that couples with a gas key which directs the gas into the rest of the bolt carrier group. The gas piston system utilizes the push rod which will mechanically move the BCG back into the buffer. The BCGs necessarily have to be different.

Hope that helps!

If you do all of those things, you'll have a great firearm. If you build it that way and decide to sell it (in a normal marketplace), you would end up getting more money by parting it out.

Frankenguns just don't have the resale value no matter what parts go into them.

A conventional Stoner-design AR is a true expanding gas piston gun too and not direct impingement. It's just that the piston is the bolt carrier group and there is no actuating rod. Direct impingement is something else.

Stopped by a local gun shop today... depressing sight to say the least.

Yeah but again, my point was the QUALITY of firearm would be in that price range of guns $2200? Thats whatyou're not getting. I didn't make that statement in terms of actually selling the gun. I meant performance value.

I was going to respond you but....





Wait a minute.... Aren't you Canadian????



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now now boys. :)