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Ghostvette 08-31-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3297517)
Neat. I've been getting kinda slack in the CCW department and just shoving it into my pocket.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...9206b47516.jpg

Be careful, you don't want to put a round in the foot that controls the 'go fast' pedal..

BoneZ 08-31-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3297866)
Be careful, you don't want to put a round in the foot that controls the 'go fast' pedal..

Amen to that. Even when in the pocket, it has full kydex trigger guarding, so I'm relatively safe.

Rusty 09-03-2015 03:36 PM

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Bought a new range finder. My relic was slowly dying on me.

gseven - G7 BR2

Rusty 09-03-2015 03:42 PM

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Bought one of these too. This helps speed up the process of sorting through bullets. :tup:

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloadin...prod38769.aspx

VABAM 09-23-2015 04:41 PM

Psa!
 
PSA!

BATFE has ruled that the X Products Can Cannon when attached to an AR-15 lower is a SBR or AOW depending on the lower.

X Products Open Letter to Customers

BATFE Determination Letter

Spstone 09-23-2015 09:20 PM

been rocking an alien wear IWB. Absolutely love it, just need to add to my full frame 1911 for some thing smaller before the summer rolls around next year.

Ghostvette 09-25-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM (Post 3316007)
PSA!

BATFE has ruled that the X Products Can Cannon when attached to an AR-15 lower is a SBR or AOW depending on the lower.

X Products Open Letter to Customers

BATFE Determination Letter

Thanks for the head's up, VABAM. :tup:




Damn BATFags, spoiling all our fun...:shakes head:

Meulen 09-25-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3293089)
Needed a better summer CCW. The sig sp2022 was just to big with my small frame and a tee shirt. I didn't want a S&W but I shot the best with it! Came with a 7 and 8 round mag. Time for a holster now.

S&W 9 shield

Nice! I put a trigger in mine. It's shoots REALLY well now!

Meulen 09-25-2015 09:27 AM

I was using an IWB for my 9mm shield. I just couldn't get used to it. Ended up getting another S&W in .380 and just throw it in my pocket with a sleeve holster. My clothing doesn't seem to conceal well. So the pocket was perfect

BoneZ 09-25-2015 09:28 AM

I started doing that with my Glock 19. Works fine and is way more comfy than IWB.

VABAM 09-25-2015 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3317174)
Thanks for the head's up, VABAM. :tup:




Damn BATFags, spoiling all our fun...:shakes head:

:iagree:

Ghostvette 09-25-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spstone (Post 3316153)
been rocking an alien wear IWB. Absolutely love it, just need to add to my full frame 1911 for some thing smaller before the summer rolls around next year.

I just can't do IWB, especially with a full size 45, I'm just too small to pull it off. :eek:


I use a strong-side holster with trigger latch for my P229. Light jacket over everything, no problem. ;)

urdeliveryguy 09-26-2015 05:12 PM

I have an aliengear iwb for my shield 9. It's comfortable.

Just picked up some truglo tfx sights for the shield and the m&p9. I can't wait to get them on. There glowing in the package and it's driving me nuts.

Rusty 09-26-2015 07:26 PM

Been thinking about an Aliengear iwb. Read and heard nice things about them. Just don't know. Have to see one in person first.

Nismo89 09-26-2015 07:57 PM

https://www.facebook.com/jacob.k.gai...type=3&theater

BlackZeda 09-27-2015 09:59 PM

I have tried a few but for my H&K P2000 SK I like the Galco Matrix OWB holster. It is a minimalist holster, but it holds the firearm very securely. It just takes a longish t-shirt to conceal.

Spstone 09-27-2015 10:31 PM

Rusty the alien wear feels and looks just like my crossbreed did, just a lot cheaper price wise, and I feel like it breaths a little better. I also like the fact that they will send you a new clam shell if you get a new gun free of charge, while my crossbreed became useless to me when I traded the gun away so some one got a $100 holster for free. The only down fall I've seen so far is the wait time from purchase until shipped.

urdeliveryguy 09-30-2015 10:08 PM

My aliengear took about 2 weeks to be shipped. I have the cloak 3.0. I was surprised. They said turn around time was 4-5 weeks.

Spstone 10-01-2015 02:21 PM

I will admit to in a hurry just grabbing my wife XDS in a sticky holster and sliding it into the back of my pants. Actually works awesome.

Nismo89 10-02-2015 03:55 PM

my soon to be fiancée, shootin it up! :tup:

https://www.facebook.com/jacob.k.gai...type=3&theater

tvfreakazoid 10-02-2015 04:32 PM

And she's a lefty

2 by 2...hands of blue

Tigger 10-02-2015 05:04 PM

got these suckers in today. gonna get some ballistic gel and have a little fun!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...a461769baa.jpg

tvfreakazoid 10-02-2015 06:25 PM

Money to burn I c. Pics when u get done with the gel. Or hell a video while u shooting the gel is better

2 by 2...hands of blue

Nismo89 10-02-2015 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3321490)
And she's a lefty

2 by 2...hands of blue

yup shes a lefty, just as I am

MacCool 10-09-2015 05:38 PM

.45 vs 9mm
 
9mm wins

M4C Newsletter & Larry Vickers: .45 vs 9mm; The debate is over

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Vickers"
An exception to that in my opinion would be if you are stuck for whatever reason to carrying ball Ammo only. At that point all the calibers are just gonna poke a hole in the bad guy and a bigger hole is better than a smaller one so .45 ACP rules. That leaves .40 S&W out in the cold in my opinion and that trend is seen everywhere now as the .40 has quickly become the black sheep of the whole Ammo debate. The guns are harder to shoot, hold less bullets and are no more effective on the street than 9mm. In fact some have proven to be problematic for many years (Glock 22) when there 9mm counterparts are gold standards for dependability and reliability (Glock 17).

So that's the way I see it; 9mm is in, .40 is out, and .45 if needed. Be safe, keep shooting, LAV out.

Larry Vickers
Master Sergeant ( Retired )
US Army SOF Combat Veteran


Spstone 10-09-2015 06:42 PM

Honestly with all the advancements in ammunition it comes down to what you are comfortable with shooting and find a frame that fits your hands, and body if carrying. If you look at the gels of rounds from .380 to .45 that are designed for extreme trauma they all have the power to stop the bad guy. But if you choose to run around with a .45 because some one told you it's the best, but only have the strength to shoot a .380 you aren't going to hit the bad guy and that big round is useless. Just my 2 pennies.

BoneZ 10-09-2015 06:43 PM

Self Defense Ammo
 
Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice?

I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...ccc6592f2a.jpg

BoneZ 10-09-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spstone (Post 3325713)
Honestly with all the advancements in ammunition it comes down to what you are comfortable with shooting and find a frame that fits your hands, and body if carrying. If you look at the gels of rounds from .380 to .45 that are designed for extreme trauma they all have the power to stop the bad guy. But if you choose to run around with a .45 because some one told you it's the best, but only have the strength to shoot a .380 you aren't going to hit the bad guy and that big round is useless. Just my 2 pennies.

:iagree:

firulice 10-09-2015 09:49 PM

Same for me that's a good round. I either carry those or my own hornady reloads

DEpointfive0 10-09-2015 09:50 PM

Any hollow point. I usually shoot them into a pool to see how they fragment (I'm dead serious)

SouthArk370Z 10-09-2015 10:12 PM

For home defense, I use hollow points. If I were going to carry in public, I'd probably go with something frangible.

Rusty 10-09-2015 11:06 PM

The first 3 rounds, Glaser Safety Slugs. The rest of the mag is Critical Defense.

Glaser Blue Safety Slug Ammo 40 S&W 115 Grain Safety Slug Package of

Hornady Critical Defense Ammo 40 S&W 165 Grain Flex Tip eXpanding Box

synolimit 10-11-2015 06:55 PM

i finally got out to shoot the new powder for my Hornady 75gr's. If you remember I was using a powder not recommended but Accurate or Hornady but one that others had tried with 69gr's and i was only getting around 2460ftps with a very compressed load deforming my tips.

I found out RL 15 would work ok. So I loaded up low, medium and high charges per Hornadys 5.56 manual. But my speeds are way way under what they say. The max at 24.9gr should be 2850ftps. I'm only getting 2642ftps. I take it they don't use a 16" barrel then for the manuals and use a 20". I tested my 16" vs 10" and averaged 310ftps slower or 51ftps per inch. So 2642+204=2846 or almost dead on for 24.9gr per Hornady, way to go manual!

Anyways I started loading more powder to see if I could get more speed and watch for signs of over pressure. Was that bad? I got up to 25.5gr and again started to compress the load and deforme the tip a little Speeds got up to 2710 and the cases looked good after being shot but pretty flat primers though but no damage or hurt cases. I ran out of brass but shot 4 rounds at 25.5gr. First cold barrel shot was 3-4" left from shots 2 and 3 which were sub MOA on top of each other. Shot 4 was again 3" away but right of 2 and 3. After writing all this I'm answering my own question probably by saying the charges were to hot and probably wild and the deformed tip probably wasn't helping. Shots 2 and 3 might of just had more room in the case or less deforming making them good at 25.5gr and 2700ftps. So maybe I'll just stick with 24.9gr at 2642ftps with the 75gr bullet and redo the accuracy testing.

FYI every 0.4-0.5gr averaged about 60ftps for all the loads I tried out.

VABAM 10-11-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3325714)
Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice?

I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr.

Hornady Critical Duty 45 ACP 220gr +P for me. :tup:

Rusty 10-11-2015 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 3326406)
i finally got out to shoot the new powder for my Hornady 75gr's. If you remember I was using a powder not recommended but Accurate or Hornady but one that others had tried with 69gr's and i was only getting around 2460ftps with a very compressed load deforming my tips.

I found out RL 15 would work ok. So I loaded up low, medium and high charges per Hornadys 5.56 manual. But my speeds are way way under what they say. The max at 24.9gr should be 2850ftps. I'm only getting 2642ftps. I take it they don't use a 16" barrel then for the manuals and use a 20". I tested my 16" vs 10" and averaged 310ftps slower or 51ftps per inch. So 2642+204=2846 or almost dead on for 24.9gr per Hornady, way to go manual!

Anyways I started loading more powder to see if I could get more speed and watch for signs of over pressure. Was that bad? I got up to 25.5gr and again started to compress the load and deforme the tip a little Speeds got up to 2710 and the cases looked good after being shot but pretty flat primers though but no damage or hurt cases. I ran out of brass but shot 4 rounds at 25.5gr. First cold barrel shot was 3-4" left from shots 2 and 3 which were sub MOA on top of each other. Shot 4 was again 3" away but right of 2 and 3. After writing all this I'm answering my own question probably by saying the charges were to hot and probably wild and the deformed tip probably wasn't helping. Shots 2 and 3 might of just had more room in the case or less deforming making them good at 25.5gr and 2700ftps. So maybe I'll just stick with 24.9gr at 2642ftps with the 75gr bullet and redo the accuracy testing.

FYI every 0.4-0.5gr averaged about 60ftps for all the loads I tried out.

3 powders you can try also. IMR4198, ARCOMP, and Ram Tac if you can find it. Alot of people like the Ram Tac, then the ARCOMP. IMR 4198 use to be the powder for .222, .223, and like size cases.

Are you using a chronograph? If so, which one? I never get what the manual says for velocity.

When you deform the tip of the bullet. Kiss your accuracy good by.

When you try for more velocity. And are starting to see over pressure signs. You will see the flatten primers. But what you don't see is inside the case. Look for a bright ring around the outside of the case, just above the case groove. If you see that. Your case is about to separate there. Also your case will grow in length. So keep an eye on case length. Watch for splits in the necks too. Because as the case grows in length. The neck will get thick, and work hardened.

Ghostvette 10-12-2015 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneZ (Post 3325714)
Hey gun packin' friends. What is your daily carry ammo of choice?

I generally use Hornady Critical Duty +p 135 gr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice (Post 3325811)
Same for me that's a good round. I either carry those or my own hornady reloads



Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3325826)

All good except maybe firulice's Hornady reloads. From a legal perspective, you always want to carry 'factory' ammo, never reloads. The experts (Ayoob and others) recommend it, because you don't want to give a defense attorney any 'ammo' (sorry for the pun) to challenge a legal shoot. If you use reloads, he can claim you were looking for a fight and loaded ammo to 'maim' his client.

BoneZ 10-12-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3326832)
All good except maybe firulice's Hornady reloads. From a legal perspective, you always want to carry 'factory' ammo, never reloads. The experts (Ayoob and others) recommend it, because you don't want to give a defense attorney any 'ammo' (sorry for the pun) to challenge a legal shoot. If you use reloads, he can claim you were looking for a fight and loaded ammo to 'maim' his client.

Very true.

firulice 10-12-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3326832)
All good except maybe firulice's Hornady reloads. From a legal perspective, you always want to carry 'factory' ammo, never reloads. The experts (Ayoob and others) recommend it, because you don't want to give a defense attorney any 'ammo' (sorry for the pun) to challenge a legal shoot. If you use reloads, he can claim you were looking for a fight and loaded ammo to 'maim' his client.

Wow never thought of that. Better to be prudent in this liability world we live in I guess. Thanks for the thought

urdeliveryguy 10-12-2015 10:23 PM

Finally got them on. Huge pain in the butt.
http://www.the370z.com/members/urdel...ure89380-a.jpg

Rusty 11-06-2015 04:54 PM

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Between my wife shooting alot, and my daughter picking up a 9mm. I had to cast more 125gr RN 9mm with gas check bullets. I did 2, 3 lbs coffee cans. That's about 4,000 per can. :eek: Hopefully I'm set for awhile. :tup:

1st pic. One of the coffee cans.
2nd pic. Filing the base. Sometimes there is part of the spruce that needs filed down for a flat base.
3rd pic. Finished base.
4th pic. 50 of them ready for gas checks, sizing, and lube.
5th. Checking the hardness of the bullet. They are a little softer then what I like. Not enough tin in the mix. But I don't have any to begin with.


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