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Yea moved to Cali from Texas... Love this State to death... But hate this State to death (for their gun laws...)

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Old 01-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yea moved to Cali from Texas... Love this State to death... But hate this State to death (for their gun laws...)
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Being in the tech industry, that's been a constant battle in my life. Probably 80% or so of the good job offers on the table for me all require moving to California, but so far I've been working in this industry for 17 years and not had to resort to taking a California job to stay employed and paid decently. Earlier in my career it was companies with local Houston offices, and for the past ~5 years it's been working remotely for a Cali-based company from here, office-less.
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I don't think I could ever leave Texas for Cali.
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Yeah I'd need to be around Houston or something to want to stay.
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Wow, just discovered this thread...
Anyway, former FFL holder. It was a hobby. Got tired of paperwork. Switched to C&R for fun. Love the CZ-52. Picked up some wooden grips for one of the rearsenaled ones. Kept one original gray.

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Anyway, former FFL holder. It was a hobby. Got tired of paperwork. Switched to C&R for fun. Love the CZ-52. Picked up some wooden grips for one of the rearsenaled ones. Kept one original gray.

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Might as well make my first forum post in this thread

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Yeah I read that one. kinda messed up with everything going on. now is when people should start buying cases of ammo and rations.
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I would love to get some input from my Z-brothers regarding an AR build.

Currently I have a mid-length rifle which works perfectly, but due to my mentality (minor OCD? having German heritage? being a Virgo?) it bugs me that the lower (YHM) and upper (CMMG) don't match. The solution seems simple...just get a YHM upper, but those haven't been available for over a year and I can't find one at the numerous gun shows that I have attended. Also, I am not happy with the CMMG at all. It seems to scrap material off the BCM Gunfighter CH which doesn't seem to be an issue with my Bushmaster uppers.

So I am looking to get a high-quality matched upper and lower set, which will be my last 5.56 AR rifle. I am highly motivated to buy a Noveske matched upper and lower receiver set from Rainier Arms, but I have been waiting weeks for one to become available:

Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Receivers - Lowers | Noveske Upper/Lower Matched Set

While waiting and browsing on their site I have come across a Mega Arms billet matched upper and lower receiver set:

Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Receivers - Lowers | Mega Billet Upper / Lower / CH - Combo

After reading up on the Mega Arms receiver marketing literature and reviews it sounds like it is on par with Noveske, plus it definitely has a cool, unique look. Plus it is at least $100 more expensive and made of a higher grade of aluminium.

So, should I go for the Mega Arms over the Noveske? Or am I being seduced by marketing hype? Do you see any drawbacks with that design?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

BTW, any suggestions for the lower and upper receiver parts would be appreciated as well. I am about to order a Geisselle trigger in order to make this an ultimate AR.

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I would love to get some input from my Z-brothers regarding an AR build.

Currently I have a mid-length rifle which works perfectly, but due to my mentality (minor OCD? having German heritage? being a Virgo?) it bugs me that the lower (YHM) and upper (CMMG) don't match. The solution seems simple...just get a YHM upper, but those haven't been available for over a year and I can't find one at the numerous gun shows that I have attended. Also, I am not happy with the CMMG at all. It seems to scrap material off the BCM Gunfighter CH which doesn't seem to be an issue with my Bushmaster uppers.

So I am looking to get a high-quality matched upper and lower set, which will be my last 5.56 AR rifle. I am highly motivated to buy a Noveske matched upper and lower receiver set from Rainier Arms, but I have been waiting weeks for one to become available:

Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Receivers - Lowers | Noveske Upper/Lower Matched Set

While waiting and browsing on their site I have come across a Mega Arms billet matched upper and lower receiver set:

Rainier Arms, LLC™ | Browse | Receivers - Lowers | Mega Billet Upper / Lower / CH - Combo

After reading up on the Mega Arms receiver marketing literature and reviews it sounds like it is on par with Noveske, plus it definitely has a cool, unique look. Plus it is at least $100 more expensive and made of a higher grade of aluminium.

So, should I go for the Mega Arms over the Noveske? Or am I being seduced by marketing hype? Do you see any drawbacks with that design?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

BTW, any suggestions for the lower and upper receiver parts would be appreciated as well. I am about to order a Geisselle trigger in order to make this an ultimate AR.
Noveske uppers and lowers are 7075-T6 aluminum, same as the Mega. The difference is that like most ARs, the Noveske is machined from a forging whereas the Mega is machined from a billet. The lack of stress relieving in the billet machining process arguably results in a weaker end product, and as a result one often finds that the billet products end up being thicker/heavier than their forged counterparts with reinforcements in key areas. If not done well, you can get cracking in some of those areas. Bottom line, no real advantage and mostly marketing hype. Another downside of billet is that some parts may not work with a billet lower (BAD lever, some of the lower parts, Redi-Mags, etc.) Not saying Mega is bad, it's just not superior in any way, other than the fact that it's more readily available.

I have a VIS upper on my Noveske Light Recce. It's nice, but it is heavy. I also have a couple of rifles I built from Noveske matched uppers/lowers. I have yet to be able to ascertain, no matter how much I try to fool myself, that the rigidity of the VIS gives me any kind of advantage over the other two rifles.

Giessele triggers are excellent. They're all I use (all SSA's) and I've never had reason to regret that. I never buy lower parts kits. The quality is too variable. If you are considering a Giessele FCG, and a BAD safety selector, and some kind of grip other than standard, check out G&R Tactical. Grant has mix-and-match LPK's wherein he selects higher quality. Personally, I buy the FCG, grip, safety selector all separately. I then go to Brownells and buy a Colt bolt release and mag release (had too many off-the-shelf LPK's come with crappy parts like that), then all the other springs and detents separately.
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Noveske uppers and lowers are 7075-T6 aluminum, same as the Mega. The difference is that like most ARs, the Noveske is machined from a forging whereas the Mega is machined from a billet. The lack of stress relieving in the billet machining process arguably results in a weaker end product, and as a result one often finds that the billet products end up being thicker/heavier than their forged counterparts with reinforcements in key areas. If not done well, you can get cracking in some of those areas. Bottom line, no real advantage and mostly marketing hype. Another downside of billet is that some parts may not work with a billet lower (BAD lever, some of the lower parts, Redi-Mags, etc.) Not saying Mega is bad, it's just not superior in any way, other than the fact that it's more readily available.
You definitely have confirmed some of my suspicions/instincts and helped me resist the hype...thanks! Just from experience with mountain bike parts and golf clubs I will always choose a forged part over something that has just been cast and cut out. With mountain bike parts the later will just fail, and with golf clubs you really get no feeling (and I have broken a few cast golf club heads). I tried many, many clubs last year and have come to the conclusion that I will probably never give up my Mizunos which are forged.

I think I will just be patient and wait for the Noveske matched upper and lower set, especially since you have informed me that they are made with 7075-T6 aluminum...thanks! I did notice that the lower weighted .2 ounces more, so it seems they need to add more material.

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I have a VIS upper on my Noveske Light Recce. It's nice, but it is heavy. I also have a couple of rifles I built from Noveske matched uppers/lowers. I have yet to be able to ascertain, no matter how much I try to fool myself, that the rigidity of the VIS gives me any kind of advantage over the other two rifles.
After trying the Troy Industries TRX Battlerail Extreme and VTAC TRX Extreme forearms I think I am hooked. They are both very light and they make the AR feel very sleek and small instead of the bulkiness I experience with a quad-rail forearm. The extra material seems to be a waste for rails that go unused. My ARs feel almost like mini-FN FALs...pretty cool. I might consider a VIS upper when building my 7.62 AR here in the near future.

Thanks for the insight on the receiver parts as well. I will not be lazy and go ahead and buy them individually instead of a kit and still go with Geisselle triggers.

Thanks again McCool! I will post when I get my receivers swapped out with the Noveskes.

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