Post on Drunk driving

shadoquad · 09-15-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jjaden

This....

There's nothing wrong with having a couple drinks and driving, problems arrise when someone get's off work, skips dinner, has 4-5 beers and hops behind the wheel.

My point is that drunks are a terrible judge of whether or not they've overdone it. What's the line between drunk and slightly buzzed, and where on that scale does "reasonably sober to drive" fall?

I'm sure there's a better way to determine driving fitness than just the standard .08, but I doubt we'll ever see that changed. In the meantime, people just blithely ignore the law, and we wind up with numerous deaths as a result, probably from somebody who thought they could handle what they drank.

TheGreatOne · 09-15-2011, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jjaden

This....

There's nothing wrong with having a couple drinks and driving, problems arrise when someone get's off work, skips dinner, has 4-5 beers and hops behind the wheel.

And Blue370tt, really sorry to see what happened to you. You are essentially the kind of person I am referring to, someone who unfortuantely has been on the wrong end of something to do with a drunk driver, so any form of it really is not funny in the least

Jjaden · 09-15-2011, 05:11 PM

This brings to mind a whole other argument.

There was a recent study that consisted of a control group of individuals drink 6 beers in 30min. then drive an obstacle course with pylons.

A second control group involved people on cell phones, required to maintain conversation and answer questions while on the phone taking the same course.

The people on the phones performed MUCH worse....

You won't do jail time if you hit someone while on your cell, because it's socially acceptable even if it's illegal in some states but it's proven to be much more dangerous.

Sibze · 09-15-2011, 03:52 PM

RiCharlie, good on you to say your sorry but I'd lock this thread up. It's going to anyway. Lock it before people get upset

Zaggeron · 09-15-2011, 04:13 PM

Frankly I think that the cause of the impaired driving is irrelevant.

There should be a basic motor skills test that can be administered at any time. If someone cannot pass the test, then they are ticketed for impaired driving no matter what the cause -- tired, drunk, stressed ... who cares. They are impaired so they should not be on the road.

On the flip side, if you pass the test it doesn't matter if you're sober or have had half a dozen drinks, you have the required minimum skills to be allowed on the road.

shadoquad · 09-15-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Frankly I think that the cause of the impaired driving is irrelevant.

There should be a basic motor skills test that can be administered at any time. If someone cannot pass the test, then they are ticketed for impaired driving no matter what the cause -- tired, drunk, stressed ... who cares. They are impaired so they should not be on the road.

On the flip side, if you pass the test it doesn't matter if you're sober or have had half a dozen drinks, you have the required minimum skills to be allowed on the road.

There you go trying to apply "logic" to legislation.

We can't have that!

Blue370tt · 09-15-2011, 04:44 PM

Its only funny if its not you that had brain surgery and spent 7 months in the hospital.

Ethnic jokes and others dont involve death or nearly dying. I have the right to be offended and I am not a sensitive person.

OP, I accept your apology. To the others......I hope you dont get hit by a drunk driver like I did.

krzykanuk · 09-15-2011, 05:15 PM

When I bought my Z I decided to never drink before driving it. That policy has worked out well. Of course, I spend a lot of my drinking time at home alone now. Oh well.

themann1984 · 09-15-2011, 08:06 PM

In for the joke.

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

BeachZTT · 09-15-2011, 08:16 PM

Just last week I saw a bumper sticker that I had never seen before. In large letters it said "My Daughter" I couldn't read anything else while we were moving and I don't recall why it caught my eye, but when we stopped at the next light I could read the smaller print... "was killed by a drunk driver". I wouldn't want to be on either end of that.

Fastfatdude · 09-15-2011, 08:27 PM

Drink driving is bad and such people should be punished.... Was hit by a truck once and it totalled my s2000. Thank goodness no injury but minor whiplash. My girlfriend was pretty traumatised though.

Wanted to rip that guys head off.. Cops took away his licence for 2 years and a $5 grand fine... Axxhole should have been jailed...

kenchan · 09-15-2011, 08:58 PM

I try to stay off the streets as much as possible when drunks are out.

But when I'm out on business hard to do...

EazyD · 09-15-2011, 09:02 PM

What time did Sean Connery arrive at Wimbledon? Tennish.

UTAMAV · 09-15-2011, 09:06 PM

With all that's been said....my .02 is that the OP has some major diplomatic

. Kudos to you sir for admitting a mistake in judgment and apologizing for it. I don't know who does it better you or Tony Romo, Oui!

Zaggeron · 09-15-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UTAMAV

With all that's been said....my .02 is that the OP has some major diplomatic

. Kudos to you sir for admitting a mistake in judgment and apologizing for it. I don't know who does it better you or Tony Romo, Oui!

He was pounded into submission by righteous indignation

09-15-2011, 05:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jjaden Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 821 Drives: 370Z/MAT SILVER/6MT Rep Power: 17	This brings to mind a whole other argument. There was a recent study that consisted of a control group of individuals drink 6 beers in 30min. then drive an obstacle course with pylons. A second control group involved people on cell phones, required to maintain conversation and answer questions while on the phone taking the same course. The people on the phones performed MUCH worse.... You won't do jail time if you hit someone while on your cell, because it's socially acceptable even if it's illegal in some states but it's proven to be much more dangerous. __________________ F.I. / MR WORKS / VOLKS / UAM / CARBON SIGNAL / SHINE AUTO Jjaden's W.I.P. http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...pic-heavy.html

09-15-2011, 04:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 19	Frankly I think that the cause of the impaired driving is irrelevant. There should be a basic motor skills test that can be administered at any time. If someone cannot pass the test, then they are ticketed for impaired driving no matter what the cause -- tired, drunk, stressed ... who cares. They are impaired so they should not be on the road. On the flip side, if you pass the test it doesn't matter if you're sober or have had half a dozen drinks, you have the required minimum skills to be allowed on the road. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

09-15-2011, 05:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
krzykanuk Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 177 Drives: 40th A7 & '10 Murano Rep Power: 16	When I bought my Z I decided to never drink before driving it. That policy has worked out well. Of course, I spend a lot of my drinking time at home alone now. Oh well. __________________ Build Number: 46 of 120. Or is it 13 of 120? Build Date: Tuesday 12 January 2010.

09-15-2011, 08:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 18	Just last week I saw a bumper sticker that I had never seen before. In large letters it said "My Daughter" I couldn't read anything else while we were moving and I don't recall why it caught my eye, but when we stopped at the next light I could read the smaller print... "was killed by a drunk driver". I wouldn't want to be on either end of that. __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

09-15-2011, 08:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Fastfatdude Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Spore Posts: 155 Drives: Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 15	Drink driving is bad and such people should be punished.... Was hit by a truck once and it totalled my s2000. Thank goodness no injury but minor whiplash. My girlfriend was pretty traumatised though. Wanted to rip that guys head off.. Cops took away his licence for 2 years and a $5 grand fine... Axxhole should have been jailed... __________________

09-15-2011, 03:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 64	RiCharlie, good on you to say your sorry but I'd lock this thread up. It's going to anyway. Lock it before people get upset

09-15-2011, 08:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
themann1984 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Overland Park, KS Posts: 100 Drives: 09 370Z Yellow M6 Rep Power: 17	In for the joke. The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!

09-15-2011, 08:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	I try to stay off the streets as much as possible when drunks are out. But when I'm out on business hard to do...

09-15-2011, 09:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
EazyD A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 1,211 Drives: 2010 6MT Sport pkg. Rep Power: 26	What time did Sean Connery arrive at Wimbledon? Tennish. __________________ Pearl White 2010 370Z Sport, Stillen CBE, tint, K&N drop-in filters, GT-R start button, Kenwood DNX-6980 with backup cam, LED bulbs, Raceseng shift knob.

09-15-2011, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
UTAMAV Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 104 Drives: 14 Nissan 370Z GM A7 Rep Power: 15	With all that's been said....my .02 is that the OP has some major diplomatic . Kudos to you sir for admitting a mistake in judgment and apologizing for it. I don't know who does it better you or Tony Romo, Oui! __________________ \| Agency Power Ti CBE \| Stillen G3 CAI \| Z1 Motorsport Wheel Spacers \| Bridgestone Pole Position Tires \|

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