Post on Drunk driving

RiCharlie · 09-16-2011, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

He was pounded into submission by righteous indignation

No i wasnt.. i realized I did something that offended others and I owned up to it,.,nobody "pounded me into submission" Tex, old padna

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RiCharlie

No i wasnt.. i realized I did something that offended others and I owned up to it,.,nobody "pounded me into submission" Tex, old padna

You did something that nobody could reasonably be expected to find offensive -- the joke was as corny as an old Jonny Carson joke. There was nothing for you to "own up to". A "Sorry I offended you" is appropriate, but you more or less admitted to doing something wrong and inappropriate which you did not.

Just because someone if offended by something we write or say, doesn't mean it was wrong to say it. Maybe you don't even realize it but you were bullied into erroneously admitting you did something wrong.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 10:34 AM

Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks.

I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks.

I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.

I did mention that an apology is appropriate. You can be sorry about someone's hurt feelings whether their attitude towards what you said is justified or not. But, this doesn't mean you necessarily admit that what you did was wrong or even, in fact, that you would take it back.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

I did mention that an apology is appropriate. You can be sorry about someone's hurt feelings whether their attitude towards what you said is justified or not. But, this doesn't mean you necessarily admit that what you did was wrong or even, in fact, that you would take it back.

But the option to do so is completely his decision. And just because he decided to handle it that way doesn't mean he was bullied.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

But the option to do so is completely his decision. And just because he decided to handle it that way doesn't mean he was bullied.

No. It was conjecture on my part that he apologized because he was bullied. He was bullied. The two threads are proof of that, but you are right that it doesn't mean he apologized for that reason.

edub370 · 09-16-2011, 10:39 AM

i would like to chime in for a second and take a vote of all those who dont give a sh*t about who is to blame/ why someone apologized/ or just genereally that this thread is surviving based on us arguing like children... all in favor of this vote say "yay". all opposed....

my $0.02

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 10:52 AM

Zags, you're a lot of fun. Seriously, you keep me entertained.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Zags, you're a lot of fun. Seriously, you keep me entertained.

I do my best

Rui Z · 09-16-2011, 11:06 AM

Context is important. As George Carlin once said:

"Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things. You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it. Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that **** all the time. Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "**** you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say. "Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horney, he lost control, he went out of his mind." A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt." These guys think women ought to go to prison for being **** teasers. Don't seem fair to me. Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is. Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion. Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper? Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman." And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the **** kind of a social life does this guy have?" I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney. Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little ******* selective next time will you?""

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z

Context is important. As George Carlin once said:

"Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things. You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it. Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that **** all the time. Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "**** you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say. "Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horney, he lost control, he went out of his mind." A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt." These guys think women ought to go to prison for being **** teasers. Don't seem fair to me. Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is. Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion. Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper? Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman." And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the **** kind of a social life does this guy have?" I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney. Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little ******* selective next time will you?""

I love that bit. And I agree with it.

Zaggeron · 09-16-2011, 11:09 AM

George Carlin was one funny man!

krzykanuk · 09-16-2011, 11:51 AM

Wait, that was my grandma! That's not funny!

Rui Z · 09-16-2011, 11:56 AM

I apologize, Kryzkanuk.

shadoquad · 09-16-2011, 12:02 PM

Don't let him bully you!

09-16-2011, 10:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	i would like to chime in for a second and take a vote of all those who dont give a sh*t about who is to blame/ why someone apologized/ or just genereally that this thread is surviving based on us arguing like children... all in favor of this vote say "yay". all opposed.... my $0.02 __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

09-16-2011, 11:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rui Z Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: (.)(.) Posts: 931 Drives: 8====D Rep Power: 18	Context is important. As George Carlin once said: "Ohhh, some people don't like you to talk like that. Ohh, some people like to shut you up for saying those things. You know that. Lots of people. Lots of groups in this country want to tell you how to talk. Tell you what you can't talk about. Well, sometimes they'll say, well you can talk about something but you can't joke about it. Say you can't joke about something because it's not funny. Comedians run into that ** all the time. Like rape. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, " you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. See, hey why do you think they call him "Porky," eh? I know what you're going to say. "Elmer was asking for it. Elmer was coming on to Porky. Porky couldn't help himself, he got a hard- on, he got horney, he lost control, he went out of his mind." A lot of men talk like that. A lot of men think that way. They think it's the woman's fault. They like to blame the rape on the woman. Say, "she had it coming, she was wearing a short skirt." These guys think women ought to go to prison for being teasers. Don't seem fair to me. Don't seem right, but you can joke about it. I believe you can joke about anything. It all depends on how you construct the joke. What the exaggeration is. What the exaggeration is. Because every joke needs one exaggeration. Every joke needs one thing to be way out of proportion. Give you an example. Did you ever see a news story like this in the paper? Every now and then you run into a story, says, "some guy broke into a house, stole a lot of things, and while he was in there, he raped an 81 year old woman." And I'm thinking to myself, "WHY??? What the kind of a social life does this guy have?" I want to say, "why did you do that?" "Well she was coming on to me. We were dancing and I got horney. Hey, she was asking for it, she had on a tight bathrobe." I'll say, "Jesus Christ, be a little ***** selective next time will you?"" __________________

09-16-2011, 11:09 AM	#12 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 20	George Carlin was one funny man! __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

09-16-2011, 11:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
krzykanuk Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 177 Drives: 40th A7 & '10 Murano Rep Power: 17	Wait, that was my grandma! That's not funny! __________________ Build Number: 46 of 120. Or is it 13 of 120? Build Date: Tuesday 12 January 2010.

09-16-2011, 11:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Rui Z Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: (.)(.) Posts: 931 Drives: 8====D Rep Power: 18	I apologize, Kryzkanuk. __________________

09-16-2011, 10:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	Maybe he was bullied, or maybe he realized that he offended some folks. I've offended people with humor. I'm usually enough of a man to apologize when I do.

09-16-2011, 10:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	Zags, you're a lot of fun. Seriously, you keep me entertained.

09-16-2011, 12:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	Don't let him bully you!

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