A somber comment

shadoquad · 06-23-2011, 11:56 AM

It's horrible.

I cannot justify anyone touching a motor vehicle when they've had too much to drink, and it happens all the time. I'll miss Dunn as a performer. Too many people drive drunk in this country, and the government's attempts at fixing the problem have been inadequate.

If someone has a string of DUI's, then fining them into debt and taking away their transportation to/from work is not going to stop their behavior. It's going to spiral them deeper into depression, which feeds their addiction. We should be treating the alcoholism that is the cause of the irresponsible behavior.

/rant

Roadster4Us · 06-23-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's horrible.

I cannot justify anyone touching a motor vehicle when they've had too much to drink, and it happens all the time. I'll miss Dunn as a performer. Too many people drive drunk in this country, and the government's attempts at fixing the problem have been inadequate.

If someone has a string of DUI's, then fining them into debt and taking away their transportation to/from work is not going to stop their behavior. It's going to spiral them deeper into depression, which feeds their addiction. We should be treating the alcoholism that is the cause of the irresponsible behavior.

/rant

I agree with you but the big issue with your sound statement is that these people have to first recognize they have an issue and then want and accept help and unfortunately many don't. You just can't force people to admit their problem and take the steps to fix it. Look at All the people that go into rehab, not just volunterily, but forced and how many go right back to it after they get out. It's pretty sad, not just for them but for all the people they negativley touch.

MacCool · 06-23-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadster4Us

I agree with you but the big issue with your sound statement is that these people have to first recognize they have an issue and then want and accept help.

For someone who a shred of insight and intelligence, that first DUI ought to be a clue.

Imagine the arrogance it takes to ignore that little issue, convince yourself that you don't have a problem, go to the bar and pound down large quantities of booze then get behind the wheel of your sports car and immediately rap it up to 140 mph.

onzedge · 06-23-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

For someone who a shred of insight and intelligence, that first DUI ought to be a clue.

Imagine the arrogance it takes to ignore that little issue, convince yourself that you don't have a problem, go to the bar and pound down large quantities of booze then get behind the wheel of your sports car and immediately rap it up to 140 mph.

It is not always arrogance that undoes people. Alcoholism is very powerful. It takes away rational thinking (among other things like money, jobs, friends, children, families, freedom, etc., etc.).

shadoquad · 06-23-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

It is not always arrogance that undoes people. Alcoholism is very powerful. It takes away rational thinking (among other things like money, jobs, friends, children, families, freedom, etc., etc.).

It's relative to each individual case. Some people are just rogues by nature, shirking the law even after they've been caught. While others have critical chemical dependency issues. There's a line between deliberate criminal act and chemically addicted urges. Where that line falls is beyond me. It's sad, really.

Isamu · 06-23-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

It's relative to each individual case. Some people are just rogues by nature, shirking the law even after they've been caught. While others have critical chemical dependency issues. There's a line between deliberate criminal act and chemically addicted urges. Where that line falls is beyond me. It's sad, really.

My dad got a DUI waaaaaay back in the day... he was walking every where, and he was a bad alcoholic.... but he just got rides places...

shadoquad · 06-23-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

My dad got a DUI waaaaaay back in the day... he was walking every where, and he was a bad alcoholic.... but he just got rides places...

Then he was smart? Or he had good friends?

I'm just saying, it's not as black-and-white as the laws that are currently written.

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3888	It's horrible. I cannot justify anyone touching a motor vehicle when they've had too much to drink, and it happens all the time. I'll miss Dunn as a performer. Too many people drive drunk in this country, and the government's attempts at fixing the problem have been inadequate. If someone has a string of DUI's, then fining them into debt and taking away their transportation to/from work is not going to stop their behavior. It's going to spiral them deeper into depression, which feeds their addiction. We should be treating the alcoholism that is the cause of the irresponsible behavior. /rant