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Old 06-09-2021, 07:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Got to take the vibrating soil compactor back before 9am. It worked great on the sand for the pool long as the sand was wet. It don't work with dry sand.
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Got to take the vibrating soil compactor back before 9am. It worked great on the sand for the pool long as the sand was wet. It don't work with dry sand.
All fill needs the proper amount of water to pack. It works as a lubricant and adhesive. Mid summer is the worst, we have to put thousands of gallons down to hit the compaction numbers we need.
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All fill needs the proper amount of water to pack. It works as a lubricant and adhesive. Mid summer is the worst, we have to put thousands of gallons down to hit the compaction numbers we need.
When I first started. I thought it was wet enough. Found a dry spot and sunk it. LOL. Got the water hose out and soaked the chit down really good. All total. Made about 7 passes around it. My brother is coming over tomorrow. He's bringing Dad's old transit. We are going to shoot it with the transit to check it for being level. After that, the pool starts going up.
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When I first started. I thought it was wet enough. Found a dry spot and sunk it. LOL. Got the water hose out and soaked the chit down really good. All total. Made about 7 passes around it. My brother is coming over tomorrow. He's bringing Dad's old transit. We are going to shoot it with the transit to check it for being level. After that, the pool starts going up.
What's important to keep level is where the pools support post go around the perimeter and would typically be supported by cement blocks in the ground...those absolutely need to be level. The sand under the pool will eventually be 'uneven' once the pool is opened from normal use. Your doing a great job for doing this by yourself... this is not a one man operation.
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When I first started. I thought it was wet enough. Found a dry spot and sunk it. LOL. Got the water hose out and soaked the chit down really good. All total. Made about 7 passes around it. My brother is coming over tomorrow. He's bringing Dad's old transit. We are going to shoot it with the transit to check it for being level. After that, the pool starts going up.
You'd get better compaction if you did it in lifts instead of throwing the whole load of sand down and trying to compact it all at once.
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You'd get better compaction if you did it in lifts instead of throwing the whole load of sand down and trying to compact it all at once.
I don't think he went thick enough to need that. Sand can go in a foot thick and still hit 95%+ with a medium size plate packer. And most of the time less is more with sand. I've seen it fail from too much packing/too large of a packer before. Instead of packing it just shook everything loose.

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I don't think he went thick enough to need that. Sand can go in a foot thick and still hit 95%+ with a medium size plate packer. And most of the time less is more with sand. I've seen it fail from too much packing/too large of a packer before. Instead of packing it just shook everything loose.

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And it's not like he's pouring a foundation on top of it so it's not a big deal. I retired as an inspector for the state of California. Utility trenches even had to done in lifts per state code even if they were backfilled with sand. And compaction tests were done on each lift.
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And it's not like he's pouring a foundation on top of it so it's not a big deal. I retired as an inspector for the state of California. Utility trenches even had to done in lifts per state code even if they were backfilled with sand. And compaction tests were done on each lift.
That's how we do it too. But lifts are 12" each, we're not doing some BS 4" lifts and wasting a ton of time for nothing. Had testers try that before and they got shut down quick.
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You'd get better compaction if you did it in lifts instead of throwing the whole load of sand down and trying to compact it all at once.
Not an option. Dump truck dumped it at the edge and I had to spread it out by hand. It's hard enough to walk on without leaving marks.
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