CoronaVirus

geeteezee · 04-29-2020, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

This is concerning.....

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Originally Posted by Tucker Carlson

Americans locked in their homes, banned from going to church, placated with sedatives like weed and beer.

Sounds like a win/win to me, haha. I couldn't watch any more after that line.

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

And, there is some immunity to "normal" influenza, plus anyone who is in a vulnerable group or wishes to do so, can get a flu immunization. There is no vaccine for Coronavirus as yet.

Also, many don't take into account social distancing, plus the myriad of other steps taken to combat this virus. All of this prevention yet we're still seeing higher transmission and mortality rates with Covid as compared to the flu.

bunk · 04-29-2020, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee

Sounds like a win/win to me, haha. I couldn't watch any more after that line.

Did you watch the video I posted earlier? If you cant have an open mind to other ideas and just dismiss them, then there is no conversation.

geeteezee · 04-29-2020, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk

Did you watch the video I posted earlier? If you cant have an open mind to other ideas and just dismiss them, then there is no conversation.

Was that the 2 doctors from California? I didn't get a chance to unfortunately, and it's since been taken down. From what I've read, their statistics are quite skewed however.

bunk · 04-29-2020, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee

Was that the 2 doctors from California? I didn't get a chance to unfortunately, and it's since been taken down. From what I've read, their statistics are quite skewed however.

Yeah, censorship. They got their statistics directly from CDC. Do you wonder WHY it was taken down?

ZCanadian · 04-29-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk

Yeah, censorship. They got their statistics directly from CDC. Do you wonder WHY it was taken down?

Pretty succinct, I believe:

“The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19.”

EDIT: Their math is f'ed up big time. I hope that they are better doctors than they are statisticians!!!
I don't think it's a surprise why the post was pulled.

BTW, if you kill all of the law enforcement in a state, you have a much better chance of not being arrested. Similarly flawed argument. Also should be taken down if it ever comes up for real.

geeteezee · 04-29-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk

Yeah, censorship. They got their statistics directly from CDC. Do you wonder WHY it was taken down?

It was taken down because it's ridiculous. Laughable if it weren't for the seriousness of the topic.

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Dr. Carl Bergstrom, a University of Washington biologist who specializes in infectious disease modeling, likened their extrapolations to 'estimating the average height of Americans from the players on an NBA court.'
'They've used methods that are ludicrous to get results that are completely implausible,' Bergstrom said.

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In a rare statement late Monday, the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine declared they 'emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihi.'
'These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19,' the group continued.

bunk · 04-29-2020, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee

It was taken down because it's ridiculous. Laughable if it weren't for the seriousness of the topic.

Really? You haent even seen it yet dismiss it as such???
Yeah, your comment is EXACTLY whats wrong with todays society.

ZCanadian · 04-29-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bunk

Really? You haent even seen it yet dismiss it as such???
Yeah, your comment is EXACTLY whats wrong with todays society.

He, and I, dismissed it on the evidence of people who know more facts on the matter than the three of us together. Or did you not read our posts? THAT is what is wrong with society!

I did manage to find parts of it, and a report on it. Which is what I based my opinion on.

What's more the joint statement from The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) is pretty clear. Or do you think that they didn't see it either???

Spooler · 04-29-2020, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by geeteezee

It was taken down because it's ridiculous. Laughable if it weren't for the seriousness of the topic.

We are in the USA. We have the 1st Amendment. Folks can say whatever they want for the most part unless they threaten someone's life. Even if I don't agree with them, they have a right to free speech.
That was my point with all of this and some of you guys completely missed it.

ZCanadian · 04-29-2020, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

We are in the USA. We have the 1st Amendment. Folks can say whatever they want for the most part unless they threaten someone's life. Even if I don't agree with them, they have a right to free speech.
That was my point with all of this and some of you guys completely missed it.

Your First Amendment means that they can post it themselves without the fear of GOVERNMENT prosecution, retribution, or censorship.

So they, you (or I, were I American) are entitled to voice our opinions, regardless of how uninformed they might be.

But is an independent business required to repeat it? YouTube is not a government (although it can act like one sometimes).

I'm sure that the terms and conditions of YouTube have been tested by now. Not that I (or anyone that I know) have actually read them.