CoronaVirus

asht · 04-02-2020, 08:16 AM

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Ahem.... you quote the WHO, an organization that has obfuscated data and lied to cover for dictators in the past. The WHO is so far into China's back pocket it isn't even funny.

The Chinese numbers are over 10M dead from this. China's wireless services reported a 21M decrease in subscribers and considering that the CCP requires ALL Chinese citizens to have a cellphone, this is a telling number. I say over 10M because it is presumed that people could have 2 numbers, one for the city they live and one for the city where they work.

How accurate this is is beyond me. Many people in China live in such remote areas having a cellphone is impossible / impractical.

They don’t all live in a city or work in a city. Much like how the US is made up to be honest.

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Ghostvette · 04-02-2020, 08:57 AM

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How accurate this is is beyond me. Many people in China live in such remote areas having a cellphone is impossible / impractical.

They don’t all live in a city or work in a city. Much like how the US is made up to be honest.

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The numbers are from the Chinese cell phone providers. They show a decrease in about 21M users over a 3 month period. There might be a good explanation for it; extra phone lines shut down because their shop closed, the mistress' phone got shut down, etc. However, given the CCP control over citizens and the videos that were smuggled out of China showing people being beaten by police and hauled away, I'm inclined to believe that the missing subscribers are not just all extra lines. The CCP required people to install a health app on their phone that generated a color-coded QR code (green, yellow, red) to indicate if they had a fever. While there are lots of unknowns (due to the unwillingness of Chinese citizens to talk about/against the CCP), in some of the videos I saw, the police were using the person's cell phone to determine identity, either by facial recognition or that's where 'citizens' are required to store their identity papers. Why do you suppose that 2 Chinese doctors that tried to sound the alarm about this virus had problems? One was arrested and died of CCP, the other just vanished.

I guess what's more disturbing is that people around the world are blindly believing what organizations like CNN, BBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and others spew out, without engaging the brain attached above their shoulders. Ya'll do realize that 90%+ of all the 'news' media in the world are controlled by 6 organizations? How easy do you suppose it would be for someone to say 'this is how we are going to report xxxxx' all across the world? Why do you suppose all of the headlines are pretty much the exact same?

Like Agent Scully from X-files used to say 'the truth is out there', but you won't find it in the major news media. Now, more than ever, we should be questioning everything we hear and see. Nothing is as it seems. We've been manipulated by the media into believing that they are the only ones that speak the truth, when in reality, they've been lying to us for decades. There are a few of us on this forum that have been in a position to see how things really are and how they get reported. Trust me, you probably really don't want to know the unvarnished truth.

Spooler · 04-02-2020, 09:47 AM

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Like Agent Scully from X-files used to say 'the truth is out there', but you won't find it in the major news media. Now, more than ever, we should be questioning everything we hear and see. Nothing is as it seems. We've been manipulated by the media into believing that they are the only ones that speak the truth, when in reality, they've been lying to us for decades. There are a few of us on this forum that have been in a position to see how things really are and how they get reported. Trust me, you probably really don't want to know the unvarnished truth.

Oh yeah, being in the military will open your eyes wide open. Don't be a fool. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Someone always has an agenda.

Rusty · 04-02-2020, 10:05 AM

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Oh yeah, being in the military will open your eyes wide open. Don't be a fool. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Someone always has an agenda.

When I worked for the DoD back in the 70's. There was chit going on that other branches of gov't or anyone else didn't know on what was going on. When I left. I had to sign a stack of NDA's. Leavenworth is not appealing.

Ghostvette · 04-02-2020, 10:07 AM

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When I worked for the DoD back in the 70's. There was chit going on that other branches of gov't or anyone else didn't know on what was going on. When I left. I had to sign a stack of NDA's. Leavenworth is not appealing.

I live right down the road from the DB at Leavenworth. I get annual in-person visits, in addition to the NDAs I had to sign.

Rusty · 04-02-2020, 10:14 AM

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I live right down the road from the DB at Leavenworth. I get annual in-person visits, in addition to the NDAs I had to sign.

I've haven't had to talk to anyone in a while. Hopefully they forgot about me.

Rusty · 04-02-2020, 10:24 AM

In reading about the number of deaths in each country. Each country is using different methods of determining on how a person has died. Some countries are not reporting deaths caused by the virus if the person had other health issues. China is one of them. That why their deaths are so low. Estimates put the death toll around 48,000.

bunk · 04-02-2020, 10:16 AM

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I live right down the road from the DB at Leavenworth. I get annual in-person visits, in addition to the NDAs I had to sign.

Gotta keep the vinson radios and keys a secret!

Ghostvette · 04-02-2020, 10:25 AM

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Gotta keep the vinson radios and keys a secret!

Shhhhhhh.....

asht · 04-02-2020, 10:43 AM

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When I worked for the DoD back in the 70's. There was chit going on that other branches of gov't or anyone else didn't know on what was going on. When I left. I had to sign a stack of NDA's. Leavenworth is not appealing.

That’s nothing to crow about. Your colleagues in the 2000s phoned me up to ask what the difference was between magnetic north and true north. No wonder you guys couldn’t shoot straight

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bunk · 04-02-2020, 10:47 AM

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That’s nothing to crow about. Your colleagues in the 2000s phoned me up to ask what the difference was between magnetic north and true north. No wonder you guys couldn’t shoot straight

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What are you talking about?

Rusty · 04-02-2020, 02:01 PM

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That’s nothing to crow about. Your colleagues in the 2000s phoned me up to ask what the difference was between magnetic north and true north. No wonder you guys couldn’t shoot straight

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You sound like my grandfather on my mom's side. Damn Johnnybull.

asht · 04-02-2020, 03:47 PM

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You sound like my grandfather on my mom's side. Damn Johnnybull.

You aren’t helping the reputation

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