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Originally Posted by TobinH the last 'bird flu' outbreak happened in Minnesota. MERS happened in Saudi Arabia... the ME literally stands for 'middle east'. There is a bird flu outbreak

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Old 03-24-2020, 02:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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the last 'bird flu' outbreak happened in Minnesota. MERS happened in Saudi Arabia... the ME literally stands for 'middle east'.

There is a bird flu outbreak happening right now in China. China has started to kill it's chickens again. But this is being over shadowed by this other virus. Oh..... don't forget that China had to kill 3/4 of it's pigs last year due to the African swine flu.
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Tell that to the Chinese. They're the one's that named it I believe.
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I have 25,000 contacts on LinkedIn. And I have a lot of contacts in China. Everytime I ask any of them on how they are doing with the virus. No more replies from them. Can ask them about anything else. I get replies back. Soon as I ask about the virus. That's it. No more.
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I have 25,000 contacts on LinkedIn. And I have a lot of contacts in China. Everytime I ask any of them on how they are doing with the virus. No more replies from them. Can ask them about anything else. I get replies back. Soon as I ask about the virus. That's it. No more.


My dad (in Hong Kong) echos your experience.

During her college senior year in USA, my younger sister had a BF that's from mainland China. Along the way, gotten to know many mid 20's from mainland China. Experience is similar....they can hehe haha with you, talk about anything, but as soon as you try to start a discussion that even probe into the propaganda of the Chinese Government, their politics, freedom, they would shut my sister down, or something along the line of "there's nothing wrong with xxxx".

No Chinese Nationals would risk saying anything on FB, certainly not with any information that can link back to his/her real identity. FB is prohibited in China anyway, one actually has to hack his/her way out.

Social media in China is monitored by its government.
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Here's the article from Bloomberg on the 21 million cell phones.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...as-virus-bites
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Here's the article from Bloomberg on the 21 million cell phones.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...as-virus-bites
Something is up, Yes. Does that mean that many people died, Noop.
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My dad (in Hong Kong) echos your experience.

During her college senior year in USA, my younger sister had a BF that's from mainland China. Along the way, gotten to know many mid 20's from mainland China. Experience is similar....they can hehe haha with you, talk about anything, but as soon as you try to start a discussion that even probe into the propaganda of the Chinese Government, their politics, freedom, they would shut my sister down, or something along the line of "there's nothing wrong with xxxx".

No Chinese Nationals would risk saying anything on FB, certainly not with any information that can link back to his/her real identity. FB is prohibited in China anyway, one actually has to hack his/her way out.

Social media in China is monitored by its government.
everyone knows the chinese government monitors social media. i'm certainly not suggesting they have full freedom of expression.

i'm saying, hundreds of millions of people aren't going to lie about their own government actively trying to exterminate them. 21 million corpses isn't going to fly under the radar.

and nobody uses FB dude.
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everyone knows the chinese government monitors social media. i'm certainly not suggesting they have full freedom of expression.

i'm saying, hundreds of millions of people aren't going to lie about their own government actively trying to exterminate them. 21 million corpses isn't going to fly under the radar.

and nobody uses FB dude.
Chinese governments actively monitor, manipulate, delete contents of citizens' social media. They arrest citizens for speaking about the conditions on covid19. Their social media accounts are linked to citizens real identity. No hiding behind the keyboard for most citizens.

I did not argue about the 21M nor the origin of the virus (purposeful leak, accidental leak, someone ate something, etc).

And, few with computer skills do get around China's firewall to setup FB accounts. But those won't be easily identified as belonging to a Chinese that lives within China.
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I have 25,000 contacts on LinkedIn. And I have a lot of contacts in China. Everytime I ask any of them on how they are doing with the virus. No more replies from them. Can ask them about anything else. I get replies back. Soon as I ask about the virus. That's it. No more.
I kinda figured this was happening. That is why I said we just don't know and may never know exactly what happened.
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