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Old 04-02-2020, 04:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Nature is cruel, it goes after the sickest and weakest first.
Nature is neither cruel nor kind. Nature has never heard of karma. Nature doesn't give a shite about you, me, or the rest of the Universe.
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Nature is neither cruel nor kind. Nature has never heard of karma. Nature doesn't give a shite about you, me, or the rest of the Universe.
Hence why we say "Mother Nature is a bitch"....
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Hence why we say "Mother Nature is a bitch"....
She can be a fvckin ciint at times.
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Yes she can...


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Hey, looks like you might be getting some of those Australian masks in NYC, thanks to China.
Well, "thanks" probably included a fair bit of money changing hands.



https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-ai...34afa2c36.html

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A plane from Shanghai arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York Sunday morning carrying an extraordinary load: 12 million gloves, 130,000 N95 masks, 1.7 million surgical masks, 50,000 gowns, 130,000 hand sanitizer units, and 36,000 thermometers.

Why it matters: The flight is the start of what might end up being the largest government-led airlift of emergency medical supplies into the United States.

That's according to Rear Adm. John Polowczyk, who runs the coronavirus supply chain task force at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). He spoke to Axios on Saturday night.
The airlift is the most dramatic part of the Trump administration's frantic attempts to catch up with a nationwide medical equipment crisis.
What's next: Polowczyk told Axios that he's already booked 22 similar flights over the next two weeks.


Yesterday, a Russian cargo plane landed at JFK with a similar load.
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Of course, they have been selling the masks for $5-$12 a pop to many countries. They want people to think they are world saviors by controlling the masks supply (Mask Diplomacy). If you have been following world politics, you will know this has been discussed for weeks now. You can find many dated articles, videos and pictures online.

In typical Chinese fashion, you have to throw half of them out due to bad quality.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-ne...ina/a-52949216

This is a funny story.

They claimed they donated the masks to Italy, the government had to come out and say they bought it.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...reign-minister

They just crashed another military helicopter, no details. I wonder what happened...



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Hey, looks like you might be getting some of those Australian masks in NYC, thanks to China.
Well, "thanks" probably included a fair bit of money changing hands.



https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-ai...34afa2c36.html

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A plane from Shanghai arrived at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York Sunday morning carrying an extraordinary load: 12 million gloves, 130,000 N95 masks, 1.7 million surgical masks, 50,000 gowns, 130,000 hand sanitizer units, and 36,000 thermometers.

Why it matters: The flight is the start of what might end up being the largest government-led airlift of emergency medical supplies into the United States.

That's according to Rear Adm. John Polowczyk, who runs the coronavirus supply chain task force at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). He spoke to Axios on Saturday night.
The airlift is the most dramatic part of the Trump administration's frantic attempts to catch up with a nationwide medical equipment crisis.
What's next: Polowczyk told Axios that he's already booked 22 similar flights over the next two weeks.


Yesterday, a Russian cargo plane landed at JFK with a similar load.

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The Philippines President has given the ok to shoot anyone breaking the lockdown order

Definitely wouldn’t get that in Britain though I know a few people I’d gladly encourage to go to the gym


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Definitely wouldn’t get that in Britain though I know a few people I’d gladly encourage to go to the gym


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Whatever... Mother Nature is just going with the flow (aka evolution). We're the asshòles mucking everything up
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Listen to this. N95 Masks, listen for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmKvC7RpEQ
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Listen to this. N95 Masks, listen for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmKvC7RpEQ
I have to say, the more I see these, the more that i realize how "Fox News" is the ultimate oxymoron.

The USA is not only soaking up all global supply, but also using your defence procurement act to keep domestic production in the country. I don't blame you for the latter especially, although those plants were set up by companies to efficiently supply all of the Americas. By doing so, you are leaving your poor northern cousins in the lurch. But we'll survive. Just don't count on getting maple syrup and back bacon shipments from us any time soon!

In reality, 3M initiated a surge in PPE production back in January at the start of the epidemic in all of its plants worldwide. Bloomberg ran a story on this months ago. This was a plan devised after the SARS outbreak in 2003. They expanded capacity of N95 masks by bringing online all equipment including all idled lines and switch-overs where possible. Chinese plants were slow to come online because of their epidemic and also Lunar New Year, but others hit their marks quickly. That was intended to meet increased global demand. The two US production facilities normally make a combined 35 million masks a month. It is set to hit 50 million in the next few months. Your supply chain would be more than enough in most situations. Unless you want the government to invest in production facilities, you cannot have private enterprise at the ready to react to a once in a generation emergency of global scale! So, when an official who failed at his job by not having enough stocks available, criticizes a company that is doing what companies do, he's just trying to save his own arse!

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I have to say, the more I see these, the more that i realize how "Fox News" is the ultimate oxymoron.

The USA is not only soaking up all global supply, but also using your defence procurement act to keep domestic production in the country. I don't blame you for the latter especially, although those plants were set up by companies to efficiently supply all of the Americas. By doing so, you are leaving your poor northern cousins in the lurch. But we'll survive. Just don't count on getting maple syrup and back bacon shipments from us any time soon!

In reality, 3M initiated a surge in PPE production back in January at the start of the epidemic in all of its plants worldwide. Bloomberg ran a story on this months ago. This was a plan devised after the SARS outbreak in 2003. They expanded capacity of N95 masks by bringing online all equipment including all idled lines and switch-overs where possible. Chinese plants were slow to come online because of their epidemic and also Lunar New Year, but others hit their marks quickly. That was intended to meet increased global demand. The two US production facilities normally make a combined 35 million masks a month. It is set to hit 50 million in the next few months. Your supply chain would be more than enough in most situations. Unless you want the government to invest in production facilities, you cannot have private enterprise at the ready to react to a once in a generation emergency of global scale! So, when an official who failed at his job by not having enough stocks available, criticizes a company that is doing what companies do, he's just trying to save his own arse!

Interesting.

I’m not sure whether it was the UK government funding it or not, but the Ex Nortel plant in Harlow Essex (incidentally where they invented fiber optics for data communications) had all their fiber manufacturing facilities mothballed in the event of an emergency so some production facilities of private enterprises have in the past been mothballed for this type of scenario


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I have to say, the more I see these, the more that i realize how "Fox News" is the ultimate oxymoron.

The USA is not only soaking up all global supply, but also using your defence procurement act to keep domestic production in the country. I don't blame you for the latter especially, although those plants were set up by companies to efficiently supply all of the Americas. By doing so, you are leaving your poor northern cousins in the lurch. But we'll survive. Just don't count on getting maple syrup and back bacon shipments from us any time soon!

In reality, 3M initiated a surge in PPE production back in January at the start of the epidemic in all of its plants worldwide. Bloomberg ran a story on this months ago. This was a plan devised after the SARS outbreak in 2003. They expanded capacity of N95 masks by bringing online all equipment including all idled lines and switch-overs where possible. Chinese plants were slow to come online because of their epidemic and also Lunar New Year, but others hit their marks quickly. That was intended to meet increased global demand. The two US production facilities normally make a combined 35 million masks a month. It is set to hit 50 million in the next few months. Your supply chain would be more than enough in most situations. Unless you want the government to invest in production facilities, you cannot have private enterprise at the ready to react to a once in a generation emergency of global scale! So, when an official who failed at his job by not having enough stocks available, criticizes a company that is doing what companies do, he's just trying to save his own arse!
Boy, did you miss the point.
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Boy, did you miss the point.

No I didn’t

Just tired of all the political point scoring that politicians are doing instead of banding together and fighting this thing.

We could say Trump had his head in the sand when this came along and now bitches whenever anyone criticises his methods and lies about other things. But what good would that do? It’s already happened? Will it change the vote at the next election? Doubtful.

I wasn’t singling put Americans btw? We in Britain are more alike with our brothers over the pond than many realise.... we just have bitching and moaning down to an art form now


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Only because there was none!
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