Is Nissan retiring the Z after 2018

Zoren 370

Ok has anyone of you guys watched E-Formula races?

Did any of you guys actually enjoyed watching it? Honestly
I fell asleep 30 mins after the green light!

I’ll rather watch Nickelodeon with my kid!! Lol

zeeder

In what way was the race less engaging than the races you normally watch and don't fall asleep to?

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Zoren 370

Well have you actually watched a live E-Formula race Vs any races that are powered by race fuel engines? Before I answer your question.

Erob

I've watched an E-Formula race. My initial interest was more from a novelty standpoint than actually wanting to watch the race for an extended amount of time. I found it to be fascinating but for me, whatever the reason, it was not as exciting as F1. Maybe it was the lack of engine noise, maybe it was other aspects to the race but it just didn't have the same appeal. Just something about a ICE growling out big HP.

zeeder

I have not. I don't regularly watch any kind of racing, though, I don't see how my experiences affect your perceptions.

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Zoren 370

So you dont watch any kind of racing? How about horse racing???

So tell me then what was your experience so I will know how it does not or affect my perceptions? Then I will tell my first hand experience watching live a petrol race car series versus a Formula E races. So I will be fair to you in explaining my boredom watching the Formula E races.


Besides I never said formula E doesn’t have the same engagement as other car races would have. I believe some of the well known Indy and European drivers drives at the Formula E series,

Btw you sold your Z was it because the sound of the exhaust too loud for your or the Z is too slow for you?

Just curious.

zeeder

No horse racing either. I watch some track and field during the Olympics...lol.

Like I said, I don't have much experience watching racing. I've done a little autocross and enjoy watching car reviews where they track the cars but I've never been into spending hours watching cars actually race.

I suppose I assumed that you weren't as engaged since you fell asleep...lol.

I sold the Z because I am a financial idiot and thought I could afford it when I couldn't. I'd like nothing more than to get back into a Z but am trying to get my **** together financially and quit making stupid choices. I think the Z sounds decent, though, there are obviously cars that sound better. I do, however, prefer quality sound over loud for loud's sake and try to protect my hearing as much as possible.

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CF736

I watched E-Formula one time and I just couldn't stick with it. The cars are fast and have crazy amounts of acceleration but without the engine noise I just felt like something was wrong the whole time.

Regarding "E" cars though.... if I could afford a Tesla Roadster I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Tesla is definitely moving in the direction of the future. I think that company has clearly demonstrated that you can have power and a reasonable amount of run time/distance per charge.

Have you seen the drag races with the stripped down Tesla vs (you name it)?? It's rare that the Tesla gets beat.

Personally, I think the people that have most of the money in this world will continue to keep the gasoline engine alive. With the advancements that have already been made in emissions reduction with the catalytic converters and such... gas is burning cleaner and cleaner. I'm sure science with continue to improve the emissions and that will calm down the environmentalists and keep the mighty dollar (Insert whatever currency here) being the true driving force behind it all.

MaysEffect

Efficiency comes with a increased cost. The "science" is already here to make emissions lower than tree hungers can possibly imagine. Formula 1 cars already have a thermal energy efficiency of 50%, compared to normal road cars that are around 20-30%. But the technology behind F1 is too expensive. Having a car with this level of efficiency would likely cost way too much or would be way too slow for most people (weight being a major proponent to efficiency). Or on the flip side of using exotic unstable materials, it would be too dangerous. So we are pretty much locked into this fine window of materials and efficiency due to cost and safety.

Electric cars are already far ahead in this realm (around 75-85% thermal efficiency), but the energy density is far behind gas fuel. So there is generally a stalemate between the two technologies. We don't need rich people to keep one or the other alive. The battle within itself is enough to keep both going on well.

Electric cars are however the future for metropolitan commuting. Keeping emissions at the lowest level possible in our cities has huge health benefits. This is what we should all be paying attention to. Nothing else is relevant as chemical mining for battery fuel and magnetic motors are equally environmentally impacting compared to mining gas.

If we could take our v6 engines to a level of efficiency as a F1 car, it would not only make more power but would produce less emissions. But this comes at a cost of reliability. So trade offs are always an issue. Would an electric motor swap make more power or get us better mileage? Its arguable still.

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