New is preferred but with wanting to get a lower payment, may not be feasible.

Glad to know I have a remote chance of surviving a decent crash.

Found a 2011 Hyundai Sonata. May go test it out. I'm not afraid of newer Hyundais. Seems they've come a long way from being a joke of the auto world. Still stay away from all things Kia though.

Just so you know, Kia & Hyundai are made by the same folks.... :eekdance:

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Sometimes I talk up and down the aisle too :D

i was just about to post this lol

Check out the Optima too. Basically same car but more handsome, in my opinion.

lol of course, nothing wrong with dreaming. yeah tires are no joke. in the 2.5 years i've had my z i spent well over 2k on tires already. i need to find a dd lol
nice, i like prosche's. would you have to have it serviced at a prosche dealership or would you be able to go anywhere. i just think about the maintenance

If I get the Cayman, I'll probably do most of the service myself, outside of heavy work (clutch and the like). I'm looking at moving to a house after the first of the year, so I'll have garage space to work on stuff again. I've got almost as much $$ tied up in tools as I do in my Z.... :ugh2:

that would be awesome, because i'm thinking they would probably try to charge you like $200 for an oil change or something. sometimes the upkeep is more than the car itself :icon14:

Tires and my driving are the only reason my wife hates the Z. I spend nearly $2K per year on tires. One full set plus a 2nd set of rears is standard for me.

She doesn't seem to understand that I could have paid for a new-to-me DD with two years worth of tire funds.

Yeah, oil changes on the Porsche at the dealer are in the $200 range. I think the car uses about 8 quarts of 0W40, so in oil alone, it's about $75. Fortunately, I can get Mobil One for 10% over cost when I buy it from CarQuest. :tup:

at least you're smart to plan this stuff out. my dumbarse would get the car then realize how much stuff is lol.

At least Hyundai makes an attempt to impress. Both korean junk, just 1 less so than the other.

I can't do any Kia after watching a Forte catch on fire, 2 Optima's get the key stuck in the ignition not allowing the car to turn off, and a Sorento hatch hinge start to rust after a year of ownership.

Which is why I do so much research before I decide, all the way down to tires. If I get the Cayman, it will probably be a summer only car; tires for it are in the same range as the 19" tires for the Z, about $1500 a set. A separate tire fund is a must, $3k annually to keep both toys in shoes, takes a little planning. :tup:

If you're scared about the optima I wouldn't bother with a sonata. The gen youre looking at are mechanically and electrically the same. I've had both as rentals and very little difference outside of styling

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Sonata is out then hahaha. Thanks.

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Forgot I have a dentist app at 4 today. And I think it's for a filling again.....

I have a two hour layover.

Right this moment, you are my favorite person.

Just this moment...

What is life but a series of moments...

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Looks like they are redesigning it for '18, might be able to pick up an older one on a lot for a decent price. Fingers crossed for ya.

14 hours and the weekend begins. So much to do to get ready for winter :yawn:

For me, getting ready for winter means putting away the shorts.

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We'll be out there for the endurance race Saturday evening. :tup:

I wish. All the lawn equipment needs to have oil changed, generator is up for oil change, cut down all the BS plants that are not annuals. Its really not that bad, just time consuming. Silver lining is I get to work outside and enjoy the cooler fall temps. :tup:

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... Which inevitably lead to death.

Happy thoughts! :ugh:

Nobody gets out of life alive.

Greetings from 30,000 ft above Wichita Kansas.

It's mighty bumpy today.

Fatality is the #1 cause of death in the US.

Watching these Lamborghini's race at the moment, makes me want to take my Z onto the track!