Test pipes install, fail. Opinions and advice please!

AlexRaymond19 · 02-28-2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shika805

I'm tackling this tomorrow (round 2!! Ding ding!!) I'm bringing my friend from that's a mechanic from Toyota. He's bring his nice tools, we'll see how it goes. I have my bolt extractors, torch and last plan of action my dremel. We'll see who the victor is by the end of tomorrow. Will post pics of the aftermath.

Thanks for the info fellas.

Slay that b*tch! I find that you have to sweet talk the bolt a little bit... If that doesn't work, than being verbally abusive can also yeild good results! Nissan bolts really respond to using the F word every other word

Gauge · 02-28-2013, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shika805

Well god bless Jorge I need to take my ish to him haha.

Kabestro, I've only seen problems with older z's 09's and 10's. new z's like the 13' should be easier they haven't had time to really seize.

My 12 had problems.

Not only that, it appears two bolts are facing the engine bay in our newer models. The second bolt wasn't as hard to turn, but it is very hard to snake a U joint down there.

To the OP, get a socket extraction kit. That, in the end, saved it for me. Each time rock the socket back and forth applying as much pressure as possible so the teeth dig in. Then VERY SLOWLY start to crank with tons of pressure. It will creak creak creak until eventually it snaps. Also use impact sockets for everything. They are more expensive but they are not as soft and they don't give as much.

Worst bolt ever IMO. Took me around 8 hours. 4 of which were just getting two bolts off.

DEpointfive0 · 02-28-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Slay that b*tch! I find that you have to sweet talk the bolt a little bit... If that doesn't work, than being verbally abusive can also yeild good results! Nissan bolts really respond to using the F word every other word

shika805 · 02-28-2013, 08:11 PM

Ok so another fail with with the demon bolt. I didn't try the torch or dremel because I wanted to try with out and i was running out of day light. The bolt extractors gave me a really good bite on the bolt but the bolt extractor began to get dull and it started slipping.

I think I'm gonna have to give up on this and take it to a muffler shop to work on this bolt.

Here are a couple pics of what I did this afternoon.

You can see the bolt now is pretty stripped.

I took off the pasenger intake to gain more access, didn't do much.

I know some people are unclear about what bolt it is. It can be any of the 3 on each cat. My demon bolt is the top corner, most difficult to access.

FPenvy · 02-28-2013, 08:19 PM

Just cut that fcker off haha honestly my hands were all cut to shreds after I got mine off. So were my friend who owned the shop I was in, and my dads haha the demon bolts are evil and destroy hands, tools, and lives lol

Kabestro · 02-28-2013, 08:41 PM

Damn man, I'm already planning how I'm gonna get this off and I still haven't got my HFC

chrischhorn · 03-01-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shika805

Ok so another fail with with the demon bolt. I didn't try the torch or dremel because I wanted to try with out and i was running out of day light. The bolt extractors gave me a really good bite on the bolt but the bolt extractor began to get dull and it started slipping.

I think I'm gonna have to give up on this and take it to a muffler shop to work on this bolt.

Here are a couple pics of what I did this afternoon.

You can see the bolt now is pretty stripped.

I took off the pasenger intake to gain more access, didn't do much.

I know some people are unclear about what bolt it is. It can be any of the 3 on each cat. My demon bolt is the top corner, most difficult to access.

On mine 2 of my 3 bolts on each cat is on the top. All 4 of them had to be broken off. None of them came off clean. I still have yet to dremel them out of my cats lol. Don't take your car to a big name manifold shop, going to have to go to a small muffler shop. Bigger shops cant touch anything emissions related. Especially if your HFC's say "Off-Road Use Only". I have a feeling a cut cat is in your near future unless you drop the motor and torch that bastard out.

AlexRaymond19 · 03-01-2013, 05:02 AM

Could always take your header off and cat in one piece :-P But that is more of a PITA, and time consuming :-P. Actually is it just the passenger side that is giving you problems? Taking the header off that side is cake. Would probably add an hour on to your install time to take it off and put it on

AlexRaymond19 · 03-01-2013, 05:03 AM

That way you could drill the bolt off, or use vice grips and a breaker bar, or even do the torch method a lot easier

shika805 · 03-02-2013, 02:54 PM

I haven't even attempted the driver side yet. I was thinking about taking off the header and accessing it that way.

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

Could always take your header off and cat in one piece :-P But that is more of a PITA, and time consuming :-P. Actually is it just the passenger side that is giving you problems? Taking the header off that side is cake. Would probably add an hour on to your install time to take it off and put it on

DEpointfive0 · 03-02-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shika805

I haven't even attempted the driver side yet. I was thinking about taking off the header and accessing it that way.

You don't want to do that, LOL
Your life will be 10 times worse (if we're talking about doing that on the driver's side, passenger side is easy)

SoFloZ · 03-04-2013, 11:04 PM

That Shiz happen to me but I stripped the head and now stuck with the bolt flushed with the flanged prob going to take it to a shop and have them do it

AlexRaymond19 · 03-05-2013, 08:50 AM

Any update?

chknhawk · 03-05-2013, 08:57 AM

On a side note. What exactly Is the HP gains from the headers. I have been briefly looking at some of the header installs and the header look pretty much like stock except they are wrapped and purty. Is there really any NA HP gains or would they header be more useful in a FI setup?

Sh0velMan · 03-05-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chknhawk

On a side note. What exactly Is the HP gains from the headers. I have been briefly looking at some of the header installs and the header look pretty much like stock except they are wrapped and purty. Is there really any NA HP gains or would they header be more useful in a FI setup?

Going to long tubes with a tune, you can generally net 15-25HP depending on the engine, conditions and supporting mods and specific configuration of the headers themselves.

Shorties, basically no gains unless you get the Momentum headers. Those see significant gains, within the realm of the long tubes.

02-28-2013, 08:11 PM	#34 (permalink)
shika805 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 491 Drives: 40th Z, 71' 240z Rep Power: 19	Ok so another fail with with the demon bolt. I didn't try the torch or dremel because I wanted to try with out and i was running out of day light. The bolt extractors gave me a really good bite on the bolt but the bolt extractor began to get dull and it started slipping. I think I'm gonna have to give up on this and take it to a muffler shop to work on this bolt. Here are a couple pics of what I did this afternoon. You can see the bolt now is pretty stripped. I took off the pasenger intake to gain more access, didn't do much. I know some people are unclear about what bolt it is. It can be any of the 3 on each cat. My demon bolt is the top corner, most difficult to access. __________________ 1971 Datsun 240z, 2010 40th Anniversary Z Build #541

03-01-2013, 05:02 AM	#38 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	Could always take your header off and cat in one piece :-P But that is more of a PITA, and time consuming :-P. Actually is it just the passenger side that is giving you problems? Taking the header off that side is cake. Would probably add an hour on to your install time to take it off and put it on __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

03-01-2013, 05:03 AM	#39 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	That way you could drill the bolt off, or use vice grips and a breaker bar, or even do the torch method a lot easier __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

03-05-2013, 08:50 AM	#43 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 14	Any update? __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

03-05-2013, 08:57 AM	#44 (permalink)
chknhawk Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 541 Drives: Like a batouttahell! Rep Power: 13	On a side note. What exactly Is the HP gains from the headers. I have been briefly looking at some of the header installs and the header look pretty much like stock except they are wrapped and purty. Is there really any NA HP gains or would they header be more useful in a FI setup? __________________ \| AEM \| INVIDIA \| GREDDY \| STANCE \| NISMO \| SETRAB \| STOPTECH \| HAWK \| TOYO \| HANKOOK \| BRIDE (wishlist) \|

02-28-2013, 08:41 PM	#36 (permalink)
Kabestro Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 331 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z MR M6 Rep Power: 39	Damn man, I'm already planning how I'm gonna get this off and I still haven't got my HFC

03-04-2013, 11:04 PM	#42 (permalink)
SoFloZ Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pembroke Pines Posts: 116 Drives: 12 Gun-Grey Manual Rep Power: 13	That Shiz happen to me but I stripped the head and now stuck with the bolt flushed with the flanged prob going to take it to a shop and have them do it

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