Why are Megan exhausts so hated

SS_Firehawk · 04-27-2012, 08:54 AM

A lot of the cost's on these "elite" brands are due to R&D. If there are less than 10,000 Z's being purchased per year, there will be fewer looking to get an exhaust (or any other after market part.) There are a lot of Mustangs, Challangers, Camaro's, Vettes, Civic's, etc out there that can justify a lower price to increase volume sales.

The only elements you can judge objectively are fit, finish, welds, and engineering. Judging subjectively (our own opinions) are sound, aesthetics, and installation. If anyone is basing their arguments on the latter, reevaluate and re-present the argument. Ebay exhausts have a bad stigma, but like it was mentioned before... they are just pipes shaped and welded. We aren't risking much investment in trying an inexpensive brand. And if we happen to like it, even better.

To hate on other forum members because you have brand X, and you have brand Y is downright ignorant and distasteful.

Edit: this was more so in responses to the messages prior to page four, just trying to make sure there is no confusion

roplusbee · 04-27-2012, 02:22 PM

My only experience w/ Megan is with a turbo manifold for a CA18DET. Some people had issues with them cracking due to the weight of a top mount turbo and/or poor welds, but I had no real issues. The gasket was a joke, but that was easily remedied by going to the dealer and getting the NISSAN one. It would have been nice to have a support bracket on it, but I just had an exhaust shop weld one one for me. Was their manifold anything special............no. It was just like the others out there for the most part. Full-Race had the mother of all manifolds, but you were going to pay for it as well.

edub370 · 04-30-2012, 04:24 PM

initial fabbing, fitment, material selection. fine tuning the exhaust to eliminate any possible alignment or fitment issues so it can be easily replicated without any future problems. sourcing companies to provide clamps, resonaters (baring that one has not already been designed bythe company), and gaskets. building a jig. sending all the systems off to get plated/coated with either chrome, cermaic, or whatever else they decide. not rocket science, but very time involved. remember, time is money.

THEN u can start cranking them out at a relatively low cost.

and for all the people that compare megan to cnt or topspeed, think about it this way. top speed, cnt, and other companies that replicate existing exhaust can charge such a low price because they skip all those steps and can just go straight to making a jig and cranking them out. whereas megan has a completely unique design than anything else on the market to them, yet can still price things at the same price point as these other companies that are replicating higher end systems. kinda makes u wonder where the money is coming out of to cut costs (more than likely material choice and QC). not saying this is all correct... just a little food for thought

hell maybe they are just that nice..

MaDMaXX · 04-30-2012, 07:11 PM

Um, actually, Megan made their name in copying other designs.

edub370 · 04-30-2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

Um, actually, Megan made their name in copying other designs.

yea? who?

MaDMaXX · 04-30-2012, 09:35 PM

Anyone they feel, i think they were copying Mugen at one point.

They're not original designs, unless they changed anything in very recent times, DC sports also comes to mind.

6MT · 04-30-2012, 09:35 PM

This thread sounds like the Stillen hate thread.

DEpointfive0 · 04-30-2012, 10:08 PM

Lol, it does... I was just trying to get some real reasoning, because I think their exhaust looks pretty legit...

I think I might be closing this thread down because it's just one person bashing another... All I wanted to say it that it looks like a high quality piece... And SOUND is NOT a good reason to say an exhaust is bad, that depends SOLELY on the person who buys it and installs it on their own cat...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT

This thread sounds like the Stillen hate thread.

6MT · 04-30-2012, 10:11 PM

ibtl

04-27-2012, 08:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7336	A lot of the cost's on these "elite" brands are due to R&D. If there are less than 10,000 Z's being purchased per year, there will be fewer looking to get an exhaust (or any other after market part.) There are a lot of Mustangs, Challangers, Camaro's, Vettes, Civic's, etc out there that can justify a lower price to increase volume sales. The only elements you can judge objectively are fit, finish, welds, and engineering. Judging subjectively (our own opinions) are sound, aesthetics, and installation. If anyone is basing their arguments on the latter, reevaluate and re-present the argument. Ebay exhausts have a bad stigma, but like it was mentioned before... they are just pipes shaped and welded. We aren't risking much investment in trying an inexpensive brand. And if we happen to like it, even better. To hate on other forum members because you have brand X, and you have brand Y is downright ignorant and distasteful. Edit: this was more so in responses to the messages prior to page four, just trying to make sure there is no confusion __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction Last edited by SS_Firehawk; 04-27-2012 at 10:09 AM.

04-27-2012, 02:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 24	My only experience w/ Megan is with a turbo manifold for a CA18DET. Some people had issues with them cracking due to the weight of a top mount turbo and/or poor welds, but I had no real issues. The gasket was a joke, but that was easily remedied by going to the dealer and getting the NISSAN one. It would have been nice to have a support bracket on it, but I just had an exhaust shop weld one one for me. Was their manifold anything special............no. It was just like the others out there for the most part. Full-Race had the mother of all manifolds, but you were going to pay for it as well. __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

04-30-2012, 04:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 22	initial fabbing, fitment, material selection. fine tuning the exhaust to eliminate any possible alignment or fitment issues so it can be easily replicated without any future problems. sourcing companies to provide clamps, resonaters (baring that one has not already been designed bythe company), and gaskets. building a jig. sending all the systems off to get plated/coated with either chrome, cermaic, or whatever else they decide. not rocket science, but very time involved. remember, time is money. THEN u can start cranking them out at a relatively low cost. and for all the people that compare megan to cnt or topspeed, think about it this way. top speed, cnt, and other companies that replicate existing exhaust can charge such a low price because they skip all those steps and can just go straight to making a jig and cranking them out. whereas megan has a completely unique design than anything else on the market to them, yet can still price things at the same price point as these other companies that are replicating higher end systems. kinda makes u wonder where the money is coming out of to cut costs (more than likely material choice and QC). not saying this is all correct... just a little food for thought hell maybe they are just that nice.. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq Last edited by edub370; 04-30-2012 at 04:31 PM.

04-30-2012, 09:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1792	This thread sounds like the Stillen hate thread. __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

04-30-2012, 10:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1792	ibtl __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

04-30-2012, 07:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
MaDMaXX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oregon from England Posts: 292 Drives: 350z Rep Power: 15	Um, actually, Megan made their name in copying other designs.

04-30-2012, 09:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
MaDMaXX Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oregon from England Posts: 292 Drives: 350z Rep Power: 15	Anyone they feel, i think they were copying Mugen at one point. They're not original designs, unless they changed anything in very recent times, DC sports also comes to mind.

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