CBE w/no or least drone?

Nick911sc · 02-22-2012, 09:01 AM

If you look around the forum there are a bunch of threads debating FI vs Berk. The problem is that dyno charts are difficult to compare against each other. There are too many factors that can skew results. With that being said... The HP differences +/- between Berk and FI are IMO negligible. Invidia on the other had has proven to have less gains because of extra restriction.

Red__Zed · 02-22-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

If you look around the forum there are a bunch of threads debating FI vs Berk. The problem is that dyno charts are difficult to compare against each other. There are too many factors that can skew results. With that being said... The HP differences +/- between Berk and FI are IMO negligible. Invidia on the other had has proven to have less gains because of extra restriction.

[citation needed]

I'd be stunned to find evidence of "more restriction" in the gemini, so please back up you claim with fact. The exhausts follow identical bends and use the same muffler in their current iterations, ever since berk made the most recent change to their exhaust.

Most dynos show ~6-7 PP gains for FI, berk shows 3-5, as does invidia.

ImportConvert · 02-22-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

[citation needed]

I'd be stunned to find evidence of "more restriction" in the gemini, so please back up you claim with fact. The exhausts follow identical bends and use the same muffler in their current iterations, ever since berk made the most recent change to their exhaust.

Most dynos show ~6-7 PP gains for FI, berk shows 3-5, as does invidia.

Awww...what happened to 12-14whp

m4a1mustang · 02-22-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Awww...what happened to 12-14whp

Dude they are all pretty close. Just get the Berk... you will be happy with the quality and the sound. The extra power is just a plus. The sound is what you'll love about it.

Red__Zed · 02-22-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Awww...what happened to 12-14whp

PP numbers are more telling. 10whp over a 200whp baseline is 5PP, over a 300whp baseline it is 3.33...pp. basically takes the inflationary nature of dyno out, which does a lot to level the numbers.

ZMan8 · 02-22-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Awww...what happened to 12-14whp

I think he mentioned PP not WHP.
EDIT: he explained it

Red__Zed · 02-22-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I think he mentioned PP not WHP. hp gain related to weight if im not mistaken.

It's a percentage point gain.

ZMan8 · 02-22-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It's a percentage point gain.

haha thanks

! I think i'm confusing it with PP used in gran turismo game.

Red__Zed · 02-22-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

haha thanks

! I think i'm confusing it with PP used in gran turismo game.

Mandingo · 02-22-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

haha thanks

! I think i'm confusing it with PP used in gran turismo game.

It would be awesome if GT5 was that detailed

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02-22-2012, 09:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 22	If you look around the forum there are a bunch of threads debating FI vs Berk. The problem is that dyno charts are difficult to compare against each other. There are too many factors that can skew results. With that being said... The HP differences +/- between Berk and FI are IMO negligible. Invidia on the other had has proven to have less gains because of extra restriction.