Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers are here!

semtex · 12-22-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

Hump Day updates please

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

For me personally, I'm waiting for the vid. Money is second to that, though, I'm strapped at the moment due to paying $2K to a credit card in an effort to getting it paid off!

I'm sure there are others that are hinging on the video.

Another point is that production isn't even set to begin until Feb...

semtex · 12-22-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

For me personally, I'm waiting for the vid. Money is second to that, though, I'm strapped at the moment due to paying $2K to a credit card in an effort to getting it paid off!

I'm sure there are others that are hinging on the video.

Another point is that production isn't ven set to begin until Feb...

Oh, that's right! Thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting that for many on this forum, the aesthetic element of sound matters more than measured gains. And no, I do not mean that as a snide, sarcastic dig towards you or anyone else. It just is what it is.

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Oh, that's right! Thanks for reminding me. I keep forgetting that for many on this forum, the aesthetic element of sound matters more than measured gains. And no, I do not mean that as a snide, sarcastic dig towards you or anyone else. It just is what it is.

Measured gains aren't everything unless you're goal is just to make it a firebreather, and there's other ways to do that (TT, namely)

Also, if it sounds like sh*t, or sounds like a Civic with a fart-can...it won't sell to a number of people...yet, there are some that don't care. Myself, I don't want a RICE car, I want a good sounding performance exhaust.

It'll also depend on how loud they are - that's hard to judge by claim from the manufacturer - a consensus needs to be built. Thankfully there are a few people that will jump on it and take the first plunge.

They can report back on the difficulty of install, how much it cost them to have them install if they didn't DIY, maybe even write up a DIY article....and report back sound level changes, even post vids.

Anyhow...I know it wasn't a snub. For me, and I imagine most people, gains aren't the only thing that drives sales.

Modshack · 12-22-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers (in most of the high population states)..Like it or not, the ability to get our cars registered and legal every year weighs heavily here..

A CAT'ed "Y" pipe would ease my concerns..

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers...

I just went crazy with my intake/exhaust for the end of the year, having to hold myself back and will probably buy around the time I get my tax refund in. Though with an ETA of February it might just be the exact same time, may as well just throw down 400 now...damn it Semtex, making now want to just throw my name on the list.

semtex · 12-22-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I just went crazy with my intake/exhaust for the end of the year, having to hold myself back and will probably buy around the time I get my tax refund in. Though with an ETA of February it might just be the exact same time, may as well just throw down 400 now...damn it Semtex, making now want to just throw my name on the list.

Do it!!!!

Actually, when I spoke to Tony over the phone, he told me the ETA is probably more like March. Makes it even more tempting, doesn't it?

kannibul · 12-22-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

No CAT provision eliminates a LOT of potential buyers (in most of the high population states)..Like it or not, the ability to get our cars registered and legal every year weighs heavily here..

A CAT'ed "Y" pipe would ease my concerns..

Just curious, but couldn't someone replace the resonators in the back section with cats?

That, or like you said, make the X-Pipe have the cats integrated there? (I think that's what you're suggesting)

I guess what I'm asking is that I don't know if there's a requirement for the cats to be as close to the engine as possible or not.

G37Sam · 12-22-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semtex

The update is that for all the excitement and 15 pages of comments that these LTHs have generated thus far -- not to mention all the comments pushing Tony for progress updates in the previous thread -- a mere five people have signed up to actually buy.

I don't get it. Is everyone strapped for cash due to Christmas purchases or something? Or is this forum filled with a bunch of tuggers who just talk the talk but don't walk the walk? I mean, sh*t or get off the pot, people. And yes, I'm sure some of you have perfectly valid reasons for not pulling the trigger. I'm just surprised that it's taking so long to get the ten people needed for this GB is all. I mean, judging from some of the comments, it's as if many of you have been drooling and chomping at the bit for Tony to finish development on these and make them available for purchase. But now that he's done, all the demand for the product seems to have suddenly evaporated.

I'll tell you guys this much. If I were thinking of developing products for the 370Z, what has happened here would cause me to think twice in terms of trying to figure out how much genuine demand there is for new products. If we, as a community, give vendors a false and inflated sense of demand by clamoring for a product but then not buying when it's time to put our money where our mouths are, we will only succeed in shooting ourselves in our collective foot. Just sayin'

I don't know about the others but Tony asked me to hold on till they confirm fitment on the G37. Till then my money is ready and I'm good to go. I don't know why you quoted me in the first place

I'm sure once the video's are out and that Italian Mandrel is in Tony's hand people will start coming in.. Even more will come in once people start writing reviews. Personally I know 2 people who are just waiting to hear them on my car before they order them. It really is more of a chain reaction kind of thing.

semtex · 12-22-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by G37Sam

I don't know about the others but Tony asked me to hold on till they confirm fitment on the G37. Till then my money is ready and I'm good to go. I don't know why you quoted me in the first place

I'm sure once the video's are out and that Italian Mandrel is in Tony's hand people will start coming in.. Even more will come in once people start writing reviews. Personally I know 2 people who are just waiting to hear them on my car before they order them. It really is more of a chain reaction kind of thing.

I quoted you only because your request for a 'hump day update' was a convenient segue into my little rant. Sorry, it wasn't my intention to direct my remarks to you personally or anything like that. I apologize if it came across that way.

fuct · 12-22-2009, 11:14 AM

hahah i just saw your from Dubai! it might BE wednesday there!

fuct · 12-22-2009, 11:23 AM

are you originally from texas? because hell ive never heard of "middle day"

and common, how was i soposed to know you only meant this week as a three day work week

anyhoot, BACK TO THE HEADERS!!!

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 12:41 PM

You are cruel Semtex, I leave for the holiday trip in two days and will think about it while I am gone.

semtex · 12-22-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You are cruel Semtex, I leave for the holiday trip in two days and will think about it while I am gone.

I think you should just get it over with and pull the trigger, man. That way, you can enjoy your holiday trip without being preoccupied.

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

I think you should just get it over with and pull the trigger, man. That way, you can enjoy your holiday trip without being preoccupied.

Fine!

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fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 26	hahah i just saw your from Dubai! it might BE wednesday there!

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fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 26	are you originally from texas? because hell ive never heard of "middle day" and common, how was i soposed to know you only meant this week as a three day work week anyhoot, BACK TO THE HEADERS!!!