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Aviator44 03-08-2015 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3131655)
I think that is where the confusion is. Because of the design of the CRV being in the housing, I don't think it is possible to relocate it. Or if there is, there isn't any off the shelf product that can do it. Since it seemed like you were suggesting to use the block off plate and adding flanges to the charge pipes I think we all misunderstood, as using the block off plates means recirculation is no longer possible.

Here is how the mount looks uncut. I think the bulk of the support is the gusset area as opposed to what was removed. Probanly 2/3rds of the M is missing now on mine.

http://i58.tinypic.com/r0a4i9.jpg

Also I posted a video of the first start in case you missed it, although the sound is kind of bad it can give you a slight idea. I'll definitely be recording more in the future!

Edit: Here is the link again http://youtu.be/kKjneBGcmMU

Now I'm a bit confused. I spoke with the Borg Warner guys at their booth at the PRI show in Indy a few months back. I asked them about doing this. They made it seem like It was possible to disable the built in recirculation of the EFR and run a dual port on flanges. It would have to be plumbed like a traditional recirculation setup where it would send the air back into the intake side. It would be like the setups that run full recirc bov but utilize turbos that do not have recirc built in. Either way your method is clearly the better route seeing that you were able to run dual ports with minimal modification. Video looks good! Look forward to more!

Rid3_FaM0uS 03-08-2015 10:49 PM

It's very much so possible Ryan. I understand what you're saying I think that most people think that the convenience items (I.e. built in BoVs, speed sensors, and internal gates) are the only way you can go with these turbos; when in reality they can be modified for all of the traditional turbocharged "creature items". There are options to build a recirc system in the charge piping as you are understanding. Personally I would say its kind of one of those "six-half dozen-another" deals to either cut two holes in your charge piping and weld to flanges plus purchase external charge air valves or do as such tony did and grind the clearance for what you need to make the aftermarket designed iteration of their rapid vent and bolt them right in place of the current factory vent. Personally, it's kinda nice to have seen what tony has done and pulled off here because its showing us once again that there are plenty of aftermarket support for these turbos just as a traditional PTE or Garrett turbocharger has.

tonyHTX 03-09-2015 05:12 AM

Ok now I understand what you were trying to say. I think the only possible issue with that scenario is that if you do put a dual port on the charge piping than it would most likely be done post MAF and that could cause a rich condition since the ECU would have accounted for the air already whereas the EFR CRV design vents right back into the turbo inlet keeping the MAF system undisturbed. I think when I said no longer possible I should have specified in the way the EFR CRV was designed.

But, someone please correct me if I am wrong because I am a little new to this turbocharging business after all. :)

tonyHTX 03-12-2015 08:10 AM

Just a few more things left to do..

http://i57.tinypic.com/hx2qoj.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/2jrwcg.jpg

tonyHTX 03-12-2015 01:18 PM

Video from yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKk-x53Px8o

john26jm 03-19-2015 04:58 PM

Who here is using the evc 6 boost controller

Rid3_FaM0uS 03-20-2015 01:58 PM

im on the EVC 6 IR as of this week and the EVC 5 prior to it

GeauxTigers1 04-01-2015 12:16 AM

Q - Will there be a presale?
A - Yes! We will be offering a 370Z presale to members of this community only (we will also be offering a presale of the 350Z version of our twin turbocharger systems on another forum). The details of the presale will be released shortly but bottom line - only members of this forum will be eligible and there will be a discount offered. The presale will only last for a short period of time and will be limited to an set number of systems.


Is this still a thing!? Or did I miss it :( :ughdance:

warpeacelove 04-01-2015 10:42 PM

@AMM; Whatever happen to developing a kit for the AWD platform?

ANMVQ 04-02-2015 07:53 AM

I don't think they have one yet :/.

ME!!! ME !!!

Sales@AAMComp 04-02-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3157108)
@AMM; Whatever happen to developing a kit for the AWD platform?

We would be happy to perform the R&D and offer such an application if we can gather interest in it. Maybe put together a group of at least six AWD enthusiasts committed to it and that would probably be a go.

KratikosG37 04-02-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by warpeacelove (Post 3157108)
@AMM; Whatever happen to developing a kit for the AWD platform?

Seems to me that you really want a kit.

You can have anything you want if you're welling to pay for it.

warpeacelove 04-02-2015 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KratikosG37 (Post 3157672)
Seems to me that you really want a kit.

You can have anything you want if you're welling to pay for it.

I need that hit, "BOOST."

GeauxTigers1 04-02-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sales@AAMComp (Post 3157654)
We would be happy to perform the R&D and offer such an application if we can gather interest in it. Maybe put together a group of at least six AWD enthusiasts committed to it and that would probably be a go.

Awwww man! You missed my q! Is there really going to be a pre-sale on this?? Just bought my '15 Nismo and looking for any excuse to pull the trigger over waiting. Still have to hit 1500 miles for one thing, but the wife and I made a deal that no TT until her jeep is lifted and she gets boobs, if I can save enough money on a sale, I might be able to talk her into letting me snag it up early :) lol!!

shaun66 04-02-2015 04:21 PM

That made my day ^^^

Sales@AAMComp 04-02-2015 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3157836)
Awwww man! You missed my q! Is there really going to be a pre-sale on this?? Just bought my '15 Nismo and looking for any excuse to pull the trigger over waiting. Still have to hit 1500 miles for one thing, but the wife and I made a deal that no TT until her jeep is lifted and she gets boobs, if I can save enough money on a sale, I might be able to talk her into letting me snag it up early :) lol!!

WOW! :rofl2: lol

The pre-sale has come and gone, but again...always willing to discuss particulars. Touch base with me via PM.

And yes...that laugh made my day too!

isDatiT 04-02-2015 07:31 PM

Edit wrong post

ANMVQ 04-03-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3157836)
Awwww man! You missed my q! Is there really going to be a pre-sale on this?? Just bought my '15 Nismo and looking for any excuse to pull the trigger over waiting. Still have to hit 1500 miles for one thing, but the wife and I made a deal that no TT until her jeep is lifted and she gets boobs, if I can save enough money on a sale, I might be able to talk her into letting me snag it up early :) lol!!

WOW lifted BOOBS FTW ;) . I had to pay 10k in bills before I did mine .:-/

GeauxTigers1 04-03-2015 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 3158332)
WOW lifted BOOBS FTW ;) . I had to pay 10k in bills before I did mine .:-/

That's less money than it's going to cost me!! But i guess a little more rewarding ;):happydance:

YzGyz 04-03-2015 05:01 PM

<----- like real booby better than fake booby. Fake look nice but not as fun.

YzGyz

KratikosG37 04-03-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3158890)
<----- like real booby better than fake booby. Fake look nice but not as fun.

YzGyz

Use to pefer my booty fake over my MK1200's while mixing out on the 32, but that was a life long time ago.☺️

GeauxTigers1 04-04-2015 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by YzGyz (Post 3158890)
<----- like real booby better than fake booby. Fake look nice but not as fun.

YzGyz

It really comes down to simple math:
Real Booby>Fake Booby
(Real Booby + 2Kids) < Fake Booby

For the LOVE OF GOD, wife please don't ever find this post! :wtf2:

tonyHTX 04-05-2015 05:10 PM

Finally worked out the kinks and got a base tune at low boost - for now until my motor is broken in - 550whp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5vRSS3Zqc

jwick 04-05-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3160289)
Finally worked out the kinks and got a base tune at low boost - for now until my motor is broken in - 550whp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW5vRSS3Zqc


Sorry I missed seeing it get strapped down but had stuff to do. Congrats bro!

Patrick@AAMComp 04-06-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3155954)
Q - Will there be a presale?
A - Yes! We will be offering a 370Z presale to members of this community only (we will also be offering a presale of the 350Z version of our twin turbocharger systems on another forum). The details of the presale will be released shortly but bottom line - only members of this forum will be eligible and there will be a discount offered. The presale will only last for a short period of time and will be limited to an set number of systems.


Is this still a thing!? Or did I miss it :( :ughdance:

The AAM Competition Twin Turbo System presale is over, but we would still love to be a part of your build!

If you have any questions regarding pricing, feel free to call us at (301) 497-9212!

GeauxTigers1 04-28-2015 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nguy3nt0mmy21 (Post 3059066)
Yeah just pick the car up from Z1. It's running really good! Pulls hard! We got it set at 560whp on low boost. In case anyone is wondering, we did not try to go above 609whp at 9.5 psi. I told them to stop at 9.5 psi cause I did not want to push it anymore. My initial goals was 550whp and I was more than satisfied with what I made.:happydance:

Why is it that some people are getting 609 whp and 9.5 psi, 590 a 9.5, and 560 on "low boost" but then I see others in their sigs that are sitting at 540 at 10psi? I know it's components and tuning, but damn that seems like a huge loss for just specific selections you make? Especially when the 540 whp has AAM TT kit and their exhaust :/

jwick 04-28-2015 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GeauxTigers1 (Post 3181060)
Why is it that some people are getting 609 whp and 9.5 psi, 590 a 9.5, and 560 on "low boost" but then I see others in their sigs that are sitting at 540 at 10psi? I know it's components and tuning, but damn that seems like a huge loss for just specific selections you make? Especially when the 540 whp has AAM TT kit and their exhaust :/

Could be a lot of reasons. Weather conditions, dyno used, type of exhaust (true-duel, y-pipe, etc.) and most importantly the tuner performing the tuning. Some tuners are more conservative with their timing and that will have a dramatic impact on HP numbers.

FPenvy 04-28-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3181247)
Could be a lot of reasons. Weather conditions, dyno used, type of exhaust (true-duel, y-pipe, etc.) and most importantly the tuner performing the tuning. Some tuners are more conservative with their timing and that will have a dramatic impact on HP numbers.

also some people ask for the car to be tuned certain ways. some want max power as I would and some just want a little extra.

KratikosG37 04-28-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3181256)
also some people ask for the car to be tuned certain ways. some want max power as I would and some just want a little extra.

certain ways DD.

max power Weekend Warrior.

little extra Dyno Queen.:bowrofl:

tonyHTX 04-28-2015 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3181247)
Could be a lot of reasons. Weather conditions, dyno used, type of exhaust (true-duel, y-pipe, etc.) and most importantly the tuner performing the tuning. Some tuners are more conservative with their timing and that will have a dramatic impact on HP numbers.

Also I would add the fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, rails, return lines, etc) and type of fuel used (91, 93, E85, etc) have a great impact on HP numbers - and in my case, the compression ratio of the motor.

There are so many variables that change the final outcome, I'm still learning new things everyday!

theDreamer 04-28-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3181364)
Also I would add the fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, rails, return lines, etc) and type of fuel used (91, 93, E85, etc) have a great impact on HP numbers - and in my case, the compression ratio of the motor.

There are so many variables that change the final outcome, I'm still learning new things everyday!

The fuel is a big one, one reason I started adding it to the finished builds thread because people with much lower boost were hitting high numbers but were on e85. Helps show a better perspective into how someone reached it.

KratikosG37 04-28-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3181364)
Also I would add the fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, rails, return lines, etc) and type of fuel used (91, 93, E85, etc) have a great impact on HP numbers - and in my case, the compression ratio of the motor.

There are so many variables that change the final outcome, I'm still learning new things everyday!

Power is power.

Good friend of mine made 510awhp in his 911. He expected a lot more, but when you pulling busses on a 600whp z06. Does that dyno even matter? I would think not lol.

11 PSI tune on a VQ37HR is power. Whether it's 500whp or 600whp. Only thing dyno is truly used for it making sure you have all the tools you need to make adjustments for clean pulls. Numbers can be so irrelevant it's all about tune and health of the engine.

Even I get caught up in the number game, but end of the day all I care about is healthy power.

tonyHTX 04-28-2015 10:41 AM

^ Totally agree that reliable power is best and that the dyno is a controlled environment for the tuner to work magic as opposed to WOT down the streets, I mean tracks.

I was just trying to add to jwick's response to GeauxTigers1 question as to why everyone's 'number' varies.

jwick 04-28-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyHTX (Post 3181364)
Also I would add the fuel system (injectors, fuel pump, rails, return lines, etc) and type of fuel used (91, 93, E85, etc) have a great impact on HP numbers - and in my case, the compression ratio of the motor.

There are so many variables that change the final outcome, I'm still learning new things everyday!

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3181399)
The fuel is a big one, one reason I started adding it to the finished builds thread because people with much lower boost were hitting high numbers but were on e85. Helps show a better perspective into how someone reached it.

:iagree:

Fuel can definitely play a factor as well.

KratikosG37 04-28-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3181424)
:iagree:

Fuel can definitely play a factor as well.

Fuel is everything for a high powered tune. This is why E85 is a dyno killer. I'm lucky to have 93 octane in my area, but would love a E85 pump.

Someone once told me, "if I want more power i'll do a shell 104 octane tune".

Replied, "Yea try taking the tune out of town tell me how that works out lol".

I want a tune for the average pump. Hunting down $7 gallon fuel with limited places to fuel isn't my idea of a weekend warrior. IMO, That's more like a dyno queen that drives his car to event once a month.

GeauxTigers1 04-29-2015 03:01 AM

This is all amazing info! Wish I could quote every one of you. Much more info than I expected, freakin love this place! ;) Thanks everyone, added the q's to add at my project consult coming up!

nguy3nt0mmy21 04-29-2015 04:57 AM

I believe I did have a great advantage at getting over the "600whp" mark at the time. I did choose to upgrade to a automotive 340 fuel pump and 1000cc injectors, with the cjm return lines. I think that alone gave me a high chance in achieving my goal of 550whp. I do also have a tomei titanium single exit exhaust. I don't know how much of a difference it would have against a dual setup. On top of that when it was getting tuned, the weather had a nice chill that day. Roughly 40-50 degrees maybe less, and then I had Jon Parhams awesome secret tuning skills. ;)
So I kinda knew I was gonna get decent numbers at the time but I really wasn't expecting to hit over 600 on 9.5 psi at all, it blew my mind. Guess I was just lucky :tup:

KratikosG37 04-29-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by nguy3nt0mmy21 (Post 3182179)
I believe I did have a great advantage at getting over the "600whp" mark at the time. I did choose to upgrade to a automotive 340 fuel pump and 1000cc injectors, with the cjm return lines. I think that alone gave me a high chance in achieving my goal of 550whp. I do also have a tomei titanium single exit exhaust. I don't know how much of a difference it would have against a dual setup. On top of that when it was getting tuned, the weather had a nice chill that day. Roughly 40-50 degrees maybe less, and then I had Jon Parhams awesome secret tuning skills. ;)
So I kinda knew I was gonna get decent numbers at the time but I really wasn't expecting to hit over 600 on 9.5 psi at all, it blew my mind. Guess I was just lucky :tup:

What fuel we're you running?

That's the same setup Charles has on his car expect for the turbo system.

Right now i'm GTM TT, 650 CC, 255 walbro.

If I do a CJM S1 Fuel return and 11 PSI tune on 93 octane. Like to think 580 whp is achievable.

Chuck33079 04-29-2015 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nguy3nt0mmy21 (Post 3182179)
I believe I did have a great advantage at getting over the "600whp" mark at the time. I did choose to upgrade to a automotive 340 fuel pump and 1000cc injectors, with the cjm return lines. I think that alone gave me a high chance in achieving my goal of 550whp. I do also have a tomei titanium single exit exhaust. I don't know how much of a difference it would have against a dual setup. On top of that when it was getting tuned, the weather had a nice chill that day. Roughly 40-50 degrees maybe less, and then I had Jon Parhams awesome secret tuning skills. ;)
So I kinda knew I was gonna get decent numbers at the time but I really wasn't expecting to hit over 600 on 9.5 psi at all, it blew my mind. Guess I was just lucky :tup:

Z1's dyno seems like it runs just a touch high, so that's why you're showing more power on the same boost. They're a great crew, good tuners and a good shop, but their dyno is very marketing-friendly.

jwick 04-29-2015 09:06 AM

***** AAM Competition's 370Z Twin Turbocharger System *****
 
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3182413)
Z1's dyno seems like it runs just a touch high, so that's why you're showing more power on the same boost. They're a great crew, good tuners and a good shop, but their dyno is very marketing-friendly.


Also a key point to note is the over 600 number was a fifth gear pull. The fourth gear pull, which is what most of us report, was 589 if I recall properly.

Edit - Again not knocking just trying to point out differences that could account for a high number.


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