Z1 3rd gear pull at 10+ PSI healthy is good enough for me. If the dyno says 500whp and not 580whp i'll be just fine.

WE all know 10+ PSI VQ will out run 90% of anything on the street, and like I said. "That's all we care about when it comes to power."

Yeah I was on 93 octane. And my forth gear pull did hit 589whp but I'm pretty sure it was less then 9.5 psi. I don't remember. If anything it was at 9.3-9.5 psi.

I wouldn't think z1s dyno reads that much higher. I've seen a lot of single turbo and twin turbo guys on dyno days at z1, and they actually made less whp then where they had got thier car tuned at originally.

Then again there is a lot of variables that can determine the outcome at the time. I'm sure if I take my Z back in a few months the number will drop to average whp.

It does. It's been a topic of discussion around here for a long time. Not taking anything away from them or your build since dynos are only tuning tools anyway, and we're only talking about a ~20whp difference on a 600 whp car. That's what, a 3% difference? Either way it's fast as hell.

:iagree: but it's more like 95%

Didn't know it's been a topic for that long LOL
But agreed, I don't really care for numbers so much. Just really love hearing the turbos spooling and how hard the car pulls whenever I get on it. AAM did a great job with these turbo kits. :tup:

Has there been any reported issues with running e85? Either with the tune, longevity, or overall performance? Just did some research and looks to be very cheap to do, and I have ONE station that has it about 5 minutes from my house. Super intriguing with the ridiculous numbers people seem to be getting with it!!

E85 is super cheap, runs cool, but you will only get like 10 mpg!

in the end it costs about the same as running 93 or maybe more depending on current/local e85 prices lol

isn't it like 30% faster burning than 93 gas? i cant remember.

e85 station by me is at 2.20/2.30 a gal right now if iirc. 93 here is at 2.99-3.05 depending on location.

dont forget e85 will burn cleaner too, wont leave all that nasty soot all over your car. Big problem for me with 93 octane and a pearl white car. So i will be converting very soon

I only get 11mpg now on 93oct.:eek:

Of course it's my weekend warrior so it only gets driven hard when pulled out of the garage.

do you pull out then drive hard or drive hard then pull out? :bowrofl:

Ummm....yes:yum:

These two points are huge for me! Thanks guys, e85 conversion it is then! When I first heard of people doing this I didn't even give it a second thought thinking it was a nightmare of a change, but it sounds pretty simply, and really only benefits rather than any sort of negatives. Except for the mileage of course, but this car isn't a daily driver so it's perfect!

Odd question, but any sort of smell difference? Certain fuels burning obviously give off dif smells, and I love the power but don't want to smell like a rotten egg driving down the road. LOL

I would go E85 if it was readily available all over the US. That is the killer for me. I can't simple jump in my car and drive to where ever and not have to worry about gas. 93 is common enough so I stick to that.

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Good point, BUT it seems like there are some pretty great sites that have maps for every station that has e85. I feel like it's common enough that it'll work, but just have to do a little homework before going on that road trip ;) it's tough not to go with something that is providing 80+ freakin Hp over 91-93!!!

Yup, I would go with it if it was available here. Be careful with those maps, I always recommend that you call those stations that you are not familiar with, because they show that we have e85 here in Kingman but there is none and never has been any.

HA! That would be the worst! Just adding to the homework I suppose! I have a station 5 minutes away that's on that map, but I definitely should call them before making any executive decisions. It's the only one around that came up.

Forget the maps and apps, they arent trusthworthy. Just pay attention for a couple weeks and look at the gas stations.

E85 pumps are generally yellow handle. I think that some diesel pumps have yellow too though so make sure and take a good look. They rarely advertise it, and they rarely have it on the large price per gallon sign. Only those who actually look for it would know it is there. Roughly half the gas stations that have it here, have it at some obscure pump off to the side like where an old pay phone would have been or something. Others put it right in with the other pumps, or its even in a pump that also has regular gas, but an extra pump handle for E85.

Good availability is a really relative term. Here in Chicago area, one in maybe ~20 gas stations I know to have it. Some would say that is "hard to get". I would argue.

My 370z was always a daily driver... but if I only drove it to work and back it would have maybe 20,000 miles on it rather than over 60,000. I unnecessarily rack up 10's of thousands of miles on the car purely for fun... so it would be difficult for me to make a strong argument towards an unwillingness to travel up to 10 minutes out of my way for a special gas that allows my car to be far safer at high power.

I was the first of my friends to convert. I resisted for years with the same concern. Turned out it was no big deal. Now all my friends have converted.

My car never leaves the state, so I dont worry about availability for road trips. But if road trips were a concern, I would have a second tune for lower boost and 91/93 and still use E85 locally.

I'm strongly lean towards the two map setup you mentioned. The G is now my toy and only comes out to play. It's never driven in bad weather nor does anybody get behind the wheel other than me and my tuner. I could easily sacrifice the WG or Valet tune to allow for individual 93 and E85 maps. WG tune probably makes the most since considering I only have a High/Low boost setting.

Guess my future fuel return is going to cost me a pump and a bigger set of injectors

Group buy discount? I'm patiently waiting for Charles' HR rails (and by patient I mean sending him messages every other day asking pleading for an update :bowrofl:)

This is awesome advice. Glad to hear a review from someone that took the plunge and uses it often! Thanks man, I think you've convinced me! ;) Can't wait!!! Now I'm just hesitant if I want to pull the trigger now or wait until after the summer. 120 degree dry heat is god awful for our boosted cars.

Don't I know. 100 deg and 100% humidity here in TX for three months a year.

FYI...Phunk is your one stop shop for fuel setups:tup:

I feel like the humidity at least helps the motor! Dry heat it doesn't have any moisture in the air to cool! BLAH, both suck! I remember driving the old Z to cali and the second we got close to water, the AC was cooler and the car SCREAMED. Miss it....may be one of the first things I do boosted! After I do my e85 homework though right?:ughdance:

Well e85 burns cooler and makes it safer to boost is that the home work

HAHA! That is in the instructions...but the homework is finding the damn gas station to make sure whereever you are going, you won't run out of gas! LOL! I love that everyone seems to be all "pro" for e85, just makes me feel that much better about going that way.

Lol not pro just had to do some home work on it to before I used it but yeah like in my town there is only one gas station

http://www.ethanolretailer.com/flex-fuel-station-finder. Try this website or download the app flexfinder

Nice find, thanks for the contribution to the forum..:ugh2:

Thanks for the link.

Come to find out they do have a E85 pump about 20 miles from me

Bad news is it's in the heart of New Orleans. King of pot holes, and bad traffic.:/

12 psi 93 octane tune will be my only option as of this time.

Or you can do two tunes one for e85 and one 93 octane

Question.

E85 and 93 octane mixed. How's that work? Which ever has the most type of fuel that's the tune you use?

Well I haven't done I'm tgoing to do that later on but I know a guy that did do it you just have to wait for the fuel to run and than refuel

You can't mix e85 and pump gas without a flex fuel system and currently one does not exist for our cars. You must do as Phunk stated above and you pretty much need to be on empty before changing fuel or you could blow your engine. If you want more power for weekend worrier fun, then get a tune for 100 octane, but mixing e85 and pump gas is a big no no for now.

Ya if you switch back and forth, you want to get the tank SUPER empty, as much as possible out. Its ok if there was like a half gallon of whatever left in the tank... but its not really convenient to drive around in circles waiting to burn off that last bit of fuel either. Switching here and there is OK... but changing fuel like your underwear wouldnt be recommended without flex fuel status, something we cannot do right now.

Yesh that does sound inconvenient the only reason I would do it would be for road trips the closest e85 pump after El Paso is 8 hours away lol

Went to go check it out. It's not there, must of been a type-o on the website.

Lol, no pro as in "pros and cons" everyone seems to be "pro" as in think it's a great thing and completely out weighs anything negative :)

So essentially, if I'm running on e, Gnna run out I'm ok to put some 91 or above In there to get me to the next e85. Love it

If your tuned yes if your not thank don't think so