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CSF has improved their radiator from single to triple pass. Apparently there are only 5 in the US. One just arrived at my house today Big thank you to Tony

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Old 06-03-2014, 06:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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CSF has improved their radiator from single to triple pass. Apparently there are only 5 in the US. One just arrived at my house today Big thank you to Tony at Fast intentions!

Ill submit my review once I install it in a few weeks. Still waiting for a Fast Intentions Oil cooler

Someone also has a full review and info on it...its apparently way better than the original

Link is being censored on the forum so I added a space in there...

http://www.motoiq. com/MagazineArticles/ID/3512/Project-370Z--Heated-Battle-Testing-the-CSF-Triple-Pass-Radiator.aspx
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Interesting, would love to have seen some data logs with the original CSF v the new one. He mentioned it cooled down faster but was it able to hold temps lower overall even on tough hotter part of the day. He mentioned never going over 222F which is good but need some data for comparison.

Also, he was doing 5 hot laps then a cool down because of oil temps, would like to see more hot laps to see what happens (ie get better oil cooling to really push radiator to actual limit).
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I did log the original CSF radiator temps and compared it to the triple. I wrote all that data in the article.
Also, I have a Nismo 34 row oil cooler which is equivalent to what most track and FI people run
You paraphrased a lot of what I said in the article.
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Awesome testing. Looks like this could be my new radiator!
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I did log the original CSF radiator temps and compared it to the triple. I wrote all that data in the article.
Also, I have a Nismo 34 row oil cooler which is equivalent to what most track and FI people run
You paraphrased a lot of what I said in the article.
I saw that, but one I was referring to is actual data logs, like excel list or graphs showing the increase over time.
Knowing the car topped out at 2xx is great, but in what amount of time be a huge variable to compare OEM v CSF v 3 pass CSF. Also was it a quick jump up to 2xx and then a constant temp throughout the entire track session or was it a gradual increase. Additionally, what are your fan speed settings at OEM/CSF/3 pass CSF which can alter the cooling temps.

A lot of variables to consider which are not mentioned in your article.
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It looks in the pictures like the Seibon TS hood is being run without aftermarket hoodpins (though I could be wrong). If so, that's good news since hoodpins has always been one of my main hangups with going with an aftermarket CF hood.
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The reason I am being picky is because of many who have the single pass CSF radiator, and the need for "real" numbers and results to prove it is an overall better design & radiator.
Have plenty of results of OEM v CSF (or Mishi) radiator, but this is new so considering all variables to ensure a fair comparison and not just some marketing fluff that it works better.
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It looks in the pictures like the Seibon TS hood is being run without aftermarket hoodpins (though I could be wrong). If so, that's good news since hoodpins has always been one of my main hangups with going with an aftermarket CF hood.
I know most if not all Seibon hoods can use the OEM 3 latches which gives it a very strong support & seal when driving. I have been in the low triple digits of speed with mine with no issues, but only had my seibon TS hood about 4 months now.
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I know most if not all Seibon hoods can use the OEM 3 latches which gives it a very strong support & seal when driving. I have been in the low triple digits of speed with mine with no issues, but only had my seibon TS hood about 4 months now.
Are you happy with the fitment and the finish? Did you go dry or wet carbon?
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Are you happy with the fitment and the finish? Did you go dry or wet carbon?
Seibon TS is only wet, so a few pounds heavier than stock (though really do not notice).
I really like it, I would say my passenger side has a slightly, very minimal, gap between the fender & hood. I mean the OEM hood to fender there is some room but there is a little more now on just that side. Latches down the same, is very sturdy, I painted mine completely so no worry about the CF fading or anything.
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I've had my Carbon Creation hood up around 140 with the stock latches and no problems but it was flexing a lot. Part of me wants pins for safety but I just hate the look.
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I saw that, but one I was referring to is actual data logs, like excel list or graphs showing the increase over time.
Knowing the car topped out at 2xx is great, but in what amount of time be a huge variable to compare OEM v CSF v 3 pass CSF. Also was it a quick jump up to 2xx and then a constant temp throughout the entire track session or was it a gradual increase. Additionally, what are your fan speed settings at OEM/CSF/3 pass CSF which can alter the cooling temps.

A lot of variables to consider which are not mentioned in your article.
you're right, i dont have excel spread sheets for it, I tried to give a idea of how the heat increase behaved through out the session, but i see you want more detail.

i can assure you it was a gradual increase with the triple pass, the single pass liked to jump up quickly and over all couldnt keep the car as cool in less time.

Fan speeds are OEM since the beginning.

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It looks in the pictures like the Seibon TS hood is being run without aftermarket hoodpins (though I could be wrong). If so, that's good news since hoodpins has always been one of my main hangups with going with an aftermarket CF hood.
yes i have no hood pins, but the Seibon uses the 3 latches like thedreamer mentioned

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The reason I am being picky is because of many who have the single pass CSF radiator, and the need for "real" numbers and results to prove it is an overall better design & radiator.
Have plenty of results of OEM v CSF (or Mishi) radiator, but this is new so considering all variables to ensure a fair comparison and not just some marketing fluff that it works better.
My testing isnt marketing fluff, im another 370 owner and track guy like alot of others here. Ive been working with CSF in testing and developing this radiator and i wouldn't have signed off on it working correctly if it wasnt right. Im more then happy to try and answer your in depth questions as best I can, but just want to be clear that im not blowing smoke about this product, it really works well.

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I know most if not all Seibon hoods can use the OEM 3 latches which gives it a very strong support & seal when driving. I have been in the low triple digits of speed with mine with no issues, but only had my seibon TS hood about 4 months now.
same experence ive had tracking mine ^
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How much does CSF plan to sell this for? I'm a huge believer in a cool running car. I absolutely loved the last setup in my old Z with the GTM 70mm radiator, but having to buy a new shroud, cutting everything up to fit and the sheer cost has me thinking this is a better route. My oil temps have been retarded on my stock 13' Z here in PHX. It needs some serious help.
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How much does CSF plan to sell this for? I'm a huge believer in a cool running car. I absolutely loved the last setup in my old Z with the GTM 70mm radiator, but having to buy a new shroud, cutting everything up to fit and the sheer cost has me thinking this is a better route. My oil temps have been retarded on my stock 13' Z here in PHX. It needs some serious help.
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how much does csf plan to sell this for? I'm a huge believer in a cool running car. I absolutely loved the last setup in my old z with the gtm 70mm radiator, but having to buy a new shroud, cutting everything up to fit and the sheer cost has me thinking this is a better route. My oil temps have been retarded on my stock 13' z here in phx. It needs some serious help.
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