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So to Jax4557 and ANMVQ, would the engine have been saved and not have blown up if you guys had forged pistons and rods? Curious to know because I soon

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So to Jax4557 and ANMVQ, would the engine have been saved and not have blown up if you guys had forged pistons and rods?

Curious to know because I soon will be trying for around 500whp with a SC kit, and I may have a little bit of a budget left to add forged pistons and rods.

But I had normally left them out because I was told by several people including a FI rep that it isnt required for me as I am not going over 600whp.

But reading these peoples stories of blown motors is starting to worry me a lil.
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So to Jax4557 and ANMVQ, would the engine have been saved and not have blown up if you guys had forged pistons and rods?



Curious to know because I soon will be trying for around 500whp with a SC kit, and I may have a little bit of a budget left to add forged pistons and rods.



But I had normally left them out because I was told by several people including a FI rep that it isnt required for me as I am not going over 600whp.



But reading these peoples stories of blown motors is starting to worry me a lil.

Unless you are going A2A, then no they won't help. The problem with the Stillen kit is the ECU has no clue what IATs are so it doesn't know how to compensate. Having forged pistons won't help a bad design.
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Unless you are going A2A, then no they won't help. The problem with the Stillen kit is the ECU has no clue what IATs are so it doesn't know how to compensate. Having forged pistons won't help a bad design.
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Dont the MAF sensors handle the temp readings or with the stillen kit those go away? My tuner had the temp on each bank and my upgraded MAP sensor readings?
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Dont the MAF sensors handle the temp readings or with the stillen kit those go away? My tuner had the temp on each bank and my upgraded MAP sensor readings?
Where are your MAF located though?. Adding the SpecZ 3bar MAP sensor at the manifold gives much more accurate readings.

I'm making a custom charge pipe so I can move the MAF right before each TB, and they won't be measuring the same air then either. I'm also ditching the coolant lines to the TB's, no use heat soaking them more than they already are.
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I too started out with the Aeromotive 340 running a e70 blend and at 12psi the pump just could not provide enough fuel giving the z AFR cut while in boost. Had her upgraded to a Walbro 450 and she now runs Nice & Rich under wide open throttle at 12psi. I can now even run a higher blend of "e" since upgrading to the larger fuel pump.

With you running 14psi you definitely need to find a way to add more fuel to you're new build. You should hit up Charles from CJ Motorsports as he is working on a twin Walbro 450 pump setup.
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With you running 14psi you definitely need to find a way to add more fuel to you're new build. You should hit up Charles from CJ Motorsports as he is working on a twin Walbro 450 pump setup.
Those twin Walbros are going to move some serious amount of fuel!

Seb has been recommending the Walbro 485 for me even though I won't be running e85. Just doing my install right now, but have the si upgrade from Vortech and also 9psi pulley - I'm going to start with the stock 8 pulley first and see where I end up. Hopefully the frozen boost IC, BOV and MAF/MAP changes will let me get into the higher boost numbers that the setup is capable of, but want to ease into it and make sure no boo boos along the way lol

I can't imagine I will need more pump than that, but good to know Charles is doing a twins setup if need be.

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Did you upgrade the stock fuel pump wiring to accommodate the added voltage draw with the aem 340l pump. Just curious because this was the pump I was going to go with when i switch over to e85.


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I too started out with the Aeromotive 340 running a e70 blend and at 12psi the pump just could not provide enough fuel giving the z AFR cut while in boost. Had her upgraded to a Walbro 450 and she now runs Nice & Rich under wide open throttle at 12psi. I can now even run a higher blend of "e" since upgrading to the larger fuel pump.

With you running 14psi you definitely need to find a way to add more fuel to you're new build. You should hit up Charles from CJ Motorsports as he is working on a twin Walbro 450 pump setup.
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Unless you are going A2A, then no they won't help. The problem with the Stillen kit is the ECU has no clue what IATs are so it doesn't know how to compensate. Having forged pistons won't help a bad design.

Well I am going Gamma kit, so it already has A2A or I may hold till RJM SC hits the market.

So ppls motors blowing with the Stillen kit is because of it's bad temp reading design?
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Well I am going Gamma kit, so it already has A2A or I may hold till RJM SC hits the market.



So ppls motors blowing with the Stillen kit is because of it's bad temp reading design?

Based on your responses I think you should do a lot more research about this platform before you decide it's right to go FI. There's mountains of good information about this platform here from the many of us that have walked this path. Don't rush in or you'll end up on the popped motor list.
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Based on your responses I think you should do a lot more research about this platform before you decide it's right to go FI. There's mountains of good information about this platform here from the many of us that have walked this path. Don't rush in or you'll end up on the popped motor list.
I was under the impression gamma/Gtm made sturdy and great performing kits, wheather it be SC or TT. Am I missing something?
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I was under the impression gamma/Gtm made sturdy and great performing kits, wheather it be SC or TT. Am I missing something?

Every kit on the market has its own issues. You need to do the research and figure out what you are willing to live with.
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