My motor grenaded.

black_sedan

Honestly without even looking at the motor this sounds like a loosing proposition for you. This is a pretty generous offer since you have no idea if the motor was abused or if something failed internally that has nothing to do with the install.

Props to you for stepping up to the plate.

Infidel

Yeah...and I'm so sure that he'll admit fault if the motor tells the story. If a surgeon left an instrument in your body during surgery would you want him to put you back under and go get it? Sounds like a good deal to the people who arn't affected with this or similar situations, not to me. Only a fool would go back and ask for more and pay for it.

evensen007

Infidel,

I feel so bad for you bro. You've had such a run of bad luck, but I would suggest/implore you to calm down and maybe just take a couple of days to cool off from the latest setback. I can honestly say that without knowing ANY specifics about what may have happened that it could be VSR's fault but could very well be the SC/Motor's fault. Even if in your mind that is only a 1 % chance, it is still a chance and maybe try to give VSR the benefit of the doubt since they've had a pretty good track record. The offer they have laid out is definitely an honest gesture to make things right. It may not seem that way right now, but as an unaffiliated 3rd party to the whole thing, that is what it is.

You are obviously beside yourself right now, and it is showing in your posts. I hope Bobby and other people realize how much **** you went through just to get what you paid for from GTM and how much this latest setback pushes that over the edge.

Take a breath and try not to picture VSR in the same light as GTM. I know it doesn't seem that way right now, but I think they honestly want to work with you and make this right.

Infidel

What I'm trying to get you to realize is that if it IS their fault they'll NEVER admit it...don't you get that? Why would I take the car BACK to them and get smoked a second time no matter how good the deal may seem. IT WAS A F-ING BOLT ON SC !!! How many people come on this board and say "SH*T, my supercharger FAILED and grenaded my motor"???? Please give me links. I really don't care what is showing through my posts...I'M F*CKING PISSED, as anyone here would be if it happened to them. Maybe you're passive and would let it go but I'm not and I won't.

DEpointfive0

I kinda agree. I got jacked with a dealer dropping a nut into my engine, you think I went back? FUUUUUCK NO... But they also said I'd have to pay for diagnostics...

I would LOVE to see VSR/SR/Bobby say, hey, F-it, we over-tuned or we didn't install everything 100%, but we'll eat the cost on this one... Sorry Infidel, we should've never released it, this isn't our expertise, our expertise is out own turbo kit. Here's your rebuilt motor (hopefully in a timely manner) and have a great day. We shouldn't work on your car because it's really not our forte.




Something like that would keep my plans of a built block with VSR/SR/Bobby... But as of right this moment, I'll pass.

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Nixlimited

This is a bird in the hand. I highly suggest you work with a guy that is willing to cut you a massive break in order to remedy the situation. It's win-win. Good for the shop and good for you. God knows you are frustrated, and for good reason, but it's time to think about the way out of the mess rather than how mad you are to be in it.

Good luck man. Hope your car is back up and running soon. I have definitely suffered through the going forced induction experience, and had to pay about double what I originally budgeted to get there. But in the end, I am happy to have been rescued by good shops and good people.

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blackonorange

Lol damn, that's a pretty good deal.

diego@vossen

Very sorry to see this occurred. GL with everything and I wish you the best.

Joepro

Until a root cause is identified, we still cannot point fingers just yet...We do feel your frustration, however,we have seen Bobby and his crew turn out some nice products, so Im in for failure results. If the other shop took the oil pan off they should have some indication as to what happened.

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Mitco39

As an owner of a custom tuning business I can sympathise with both of you. However I feel like SR is doing the right thing (even before knowing the exact cause of failure). If I was in that position I would do the exact same thing and work with the customer as it appears they are willing to do with you.

Many people forget that these custom shops are use at your own risk, and most if not all will require a waiver from you to even run your car on the dyno. I can definitely see your point Infidel but by comparing this to surgery is ridiculous.

What if you just had a surgery and the next week you were diagnosed with cancer, would those two things be related?

Not saying that the engine failing was not a direct result of the work done, however mistakes do infact happen, no one or no shop is perfect. But I applaud SR for giving you this deal even after the bad publicity your giving them.

The guys that said return your car to stock and bring it to Nissan are the reason car manufacturers are more stringent on their warranty work. I dont blame them one bit.

Either way you go I do wish you the best of luck in all of this.

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Joepro

No one is perfect, we are all human beings, mistake happen, like the possibility that whoever built your motor at Nissan Fed up, or the manufactuer of the rods or bearings...Thus is life, without any soild proof that Bobby messed it up I think that is a strong off as well, and you think he wont make sure its done to a 110% after this, I think it would be, I would quiz him on the parts and prcocess for sure, but it is an avenue that cannot be ignored IMO, at 25% labor it sounds be is giving it to you at cost, and without proof, that is a heck of an offer, again im netural until we know more, was cosmos motor ever done?

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ZKraken22

At least the shop is willing to do something. A law suit wouldn't even be worth. alot of wasted time and money when that time and money could go towards VSR offer. unless you obviously absolutely knew it was the tune then yea law suit. Being on the GT-R life alot i see so much of this happening because no one keeps a stock GT-R it seems. Picture massive builds. 100k lost because of bad tuners or shops taking short cuts. But that being said most of those guys provide pictures and proof on their "call out vendor threads" So this does suck. But i would feel better about having the option of vsr building my engine. If they warranty their work and stand behind their built engine then why wouldn't you take the offer regardless of trust? I mean what other options do you have? What route are you going to go now? You have to move forward.

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slam1918

It's apparent there were mistakes made on both sides. Finger pointing is doing nothing to get your car back on the road. Introducing a 2nd tuning shop just added to more fingers in the pie. Infidel it was up to you to do your do diligence before you put your Z in an independent repair shop. Seems like your not getting many other people steppin up with complaints about the work from SR. I think everyone on this site will agree when you ramp up the power you had best prepare for a situation like your in now.
Either make peace, go have a beer and take the fig leaf offered or cut the cord and move in a new direction. If it was my car sitting in the driveway I'd sit down with SR and get it in writing what he is willing to provide. I'm sure if he rebuilds your engine he will stand behind the build within reason. If your standing on principle of him admitting fault you may be standing for a long time.
Take him to court?? seems like throwing good money to bad. You have a 50/50 chance to win and you'll spend too much time and money to gain personal satisfaction. Get SR to put an offer in writing post it & we can help you decide if it's fair & reasonable.

zguynate

If I was VSR, and I made that offer for a customer whos engine blew, I would make damn sure that there are no mistakes done to the new motor. From what he says, they have a good track record of building cars. There is a chance that yours is their first fluke. It happens unfortunately. From what I can tell, their offer is going to be your best choice (pricewise) of getting running again. If they rebuild/build your motor, re-install the supercharger kit, tune it, then it blows again, there is no doubt that its anyones fault but their own.

I understand not wanting to send your car back since you feel that its their fault it went, but they are trying to make right on a situation that is grey. If the motor goes again, they are fully liable since their hand was in every aspect of the equation.

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VRSean

Stepping up to take such a massive hit on a rebuild is huge for the shop, I applaud Bobby for stepping up to the plate. Definitely not the 100% solution the OP wanted but when you started your thread you planned on being 100% effed in this deal and had to come 100% out of pocket. Paying a fraction would be a deal to jump on for me and you can guarantee the build would be checked, rechecked, and triple checked to put this issue to bed and restore some faith on the forum. Some shops would walk away from this, some would offer little discount, this one just came back with a killer offer that gets you back on the road.