The STS kit is a goddamn abortion. No one should ever consider buying one.

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NO!!! Don't do it! Even if you have to wait a few more months it is 100% worth the wait!

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Well since you guys are on the topic of comparing kits, here is the dilemma i have. Do i wait for this kit or do i purchase a used GTM stage 2 twin turbo kit that i am being offered?

Wait for this kit. [/topic]

All I know is that I have my turbo funds in the bank and I'm waiting for the word. No rush though. The more time he takes, the bigger my funds grow.

You putting it in yourself?

Sasha, You ready to send some 3" pipes my way?

Can I sell my 2.75" tubes to someone as a cold air intake? :rolleyes:

Dropping off a few sets of 3" intake pipes, and V1.5 IC pipe upgrades at the powder coated later tomorrow, so I should have those ready to ship once they come back.

So how's this gonna work out when the kits r ready to be shipped?

Sweet! PayPal ready :D

That's the plan. The self install is the biggest reason why I like this kit. It instantly gives the installer a good base on how the system works, trouble shoot problems and how to customize any part he wants.

Should be ready to ship next week. :tup:

And while I am here, I might as well provide an update on all this.


I have been dealing with some unfortunate back issues (lower back), and it has really held me back all this summer. I did finally find an chiropractor that knows what he is doing, and I am starting to fell a lot better....which translates in to me getting on with the building of more turbo kits.

I have also been working on outsourcing some of the fabrication for a few months now. Of course, when you are as anal retentive as me, it is difficult to find somebody that will make the pipes to the high spec that I demand....BUT, I think I have finally found a company that is capable of producing a larger volume, and guarantees to meet all the detailed specs I have requested.

At this time I am working on a sample to send out so that they can build their jigs, and make one set of pipes. Once that is done, the pipes will be sent to me. They will be checked against my jigs, and scrutinized in great detail. I will be cutting the first set of pipes completely open to check for quality of weld, penetration...ect.

If that passes my inspection, I will be ordering 20 sets to start with, and will be able to supply the very high demand for this kit. Each set of pipes will still be coming to me, and each set will be put in MY jigs to ensure proper fitment and that it passes my QC. Only then will it be boxed up, and shipped out to customers.

So for those who are patiently waiting I want to say thank you, and that I am working hard on getting these out to you guys.

This particular manufacturer also builds very high end Titanium exhaust/intake kits, and if there is enough demand, I hope to have them build a few sets of titanium charge pipes that go in the engine bay for this kit.

Something like this (just a random google image, but it gives you an idea of the finish):

http://www.gtrblog.com/wp-content/up...on-kit-005.jpg

Sasha

Music to my ears Sasha, you da man!

Very cool info. Hopefully they will come through with their quality. That will give you some extra time and provide more kits to the customers! Win win.

3 inch titanium intake pipes with extended MAF sensor plug?

Extended maf's is where it's at

Ill take some 3" intakes with extended mafs please. Sounds like without the extensions the 3" run out around 14psi. Id like to go up to 16psi for a track setting.

I'm thinking about going to 12psi and see what it reads at

So for all you guys running high boost why after so many years of these kits being around is it only come to light recently? Have people just been doing these upgrades and keeping it to themselves? Or are tuning companies just not paying attention when they go to tune? Or are they knowingly maxing out the mafs and tuning in extra fuel just to be safe?

I'm genuinely curious no one stumbled onto this earlier. 2.5" MAF tubes are a recipe for disaster...

This is a very good question.

If I had to guess, it would be that so many people stopped at less than 500whp/10psi or so since that's where everybody used to think the limit of the motor was. Now that people are pushing the limit, we're seeing limitations of the MAFs.

Sasha, I was just thinking. Being that now your making 3inch intake tubes and in a different material plus the extended mafs. Maybe you could update you turbo kit listing in your home page with a parts upgrade listing for people to see what else you offer and for people who already have your kits who would like to upgrade they're kits to go into higher horsepower goals.

He hasn't done the tall maf's yet I don't believe. . I have been the only one to travel that road. But he should with how much his kit pushs. No one knows the limit of the stock block...but we kno maf's max out fasr

Yeah, I will have to update the 3" charge pipes part. The Titanium charge pipes are not an option yet, so that stays out. I can only offer that once I have received a sample and have made sure it all looks and fits perfect.


Correct, I have not done that. When this kit came out 2.5 year ago now, the general understanding was that the stock block limit was in the low to mid 500whp range. With the original 2.75" piping on the test car, the tuner had no concerns with the MAF voltage, or at least none that were relayed to me. I am not a pro tuner, so my understanding was that all is well.

I also noticed that one other turbo kit had 2.5" charge pipes, and was making over 500whp....again, re-assurance that the MAF sensor flow limits were in check.

On top of that other kits were able to push the 2.75" charge pipes well in to the 600whp range, again, no flags came up.

I have gone to the larger 3" diameter charge pipes with the next round of kits
(working on 16 at the moment) and I believe that this will provide more than enough safety margin even for those pushing in to the 600's.

When will the 3" be ready to ship? Dibs.....:driving:

Should be early next week.

Sounds good Sasha! Was simply just trying to lend a lil feed back for the good of your market. I would love to upgrade my kit eventually and push over 600hp with a built motor. But that's also down the road for now haha.:driving:

Appreciate the reminder. I am in full on production mode right now, so the sometimes the small stuff like this gets forgotten.

Bah! I wish I had more money lol. With Z Nationals and Import Alliance coming up I need to conserve my funds. I'm wanting to push my car a little further, but I want to do it as smart as possible. I'll be getting with Charles eventually about getting another pump to work in conjunction with his road race pump and get the fuel return system to aid in my quest for mo power!!! I'd also like to get the new 3" pipes, but in the future. I'll be keeping an eye on BP though!

is it possible to install this kit with Stillen headers ?

It should work just fine if the headers are OEM style.

Edit- I stand corrected.

Hey Sasha,

Is it possible for your kit to be tuned for more low end response? I see single turbo making great torque and power up top, but compared to a TT kit it has almost half the torque at the 2.5k and 3k rpm range. I'm just wondering because I do some occasional autox courses road courses and don't want to sacrifice the low end response coming out of a corner and having snap oversteer when the turbo kicks in. I would gladly sacrifice power for some low end torque.

You have an excellent looking kit though! From the videos I've seen it looks like a blast to be in a BP kit Z!

thanks for taking the time an effort to improve your kit's functionality and ease of install as well

You have this backwards at least with a twin scroll. A single turbo makes better low end torque than a twin. I had to have my tuner take out a bunch of timing down low because it was making too much torque. I'll see if I can dig up my dyno that has my car with a GTM TT kit graph overlaid. Sasha's BP kit dominates it.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...d3af7f4c79.jpg

The dark blue is my torque curve and the lighter blue is the GTM TT Stage 2 kit. My HP curve is the brown and his is the red. Both cars tuned by the same tuner, same dyno, both at the limit my tuner feels comfortable on a stock block. You can easily see Sasha's Single Twin Scroll dominates the GTM kit through almost all of the power band.

Note - the dyno is an old Mustang dyno and would add 15-20% for typical Dynojet numbers.

Hmm that's very interesting. I was looking at the FI TT kit recently and it seems to be making about 275 lbft @ 2.5k rpm. If the BP kit can do that I'll be incredibly impressed. Then again that's off of the FI TT advertisement page. I've really been trying to dig up some TT versus single twin scroll Dynos that are on the same plot to really understand the differences and yours helps a ton. I wonder if anyone else out there has comparison Dynos like that. I'd love to see them.

mmmmhmmmmm torque. I dont think there is a manlier word! haha

You also want to make sure you know what fuel is being ran. Both the cars in my post are running 93. If the FI TT kit is running E85 the torque will come on much earlier because you can run more aggressive timing. The only real way to compare kits is to have them truly side by side, like in my comparison (same dyno, same tuner, stock block, etc.). I'd love to see how a similar built FI kit compares to mine but unfortunately there aren't any in Houston.

Especially when it's used in the same explanation as dominates :bowrofl: