Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Forced Induction (http://www.the370z.com/forced-induction/)
-   -   Boosted Performance V 2.0 (http://www.the370z.com/forced-induction/88849-boosted-performance-v-2-0-a.html)

Boosted Performance 04-15-2014 12:09 AM

Boosted Performance V 2.0
 
Well, as I have said earlier, there is a new version of the Boosted Performance twin scroll turbo kit....

Before I get to the details, I would like to thank this community for their support right from the beginning. It was great to see a positive response from car enthusiasts like myself when this kit was first introduced. As most of you know, my goal is to make the best turbo kit on the market, and have the best support possible behind it. I am not alone in this quest, as it is clear to that the guys at F.I have been doing the same thing, and also have a fantastic product available for you all. So it is great to see that I am not alone when it comes to putting a great product out to market.

I must also thank Mitco39, a local member who happened to be my second 370Z turbo customer. He was more than happy to bring his car over and leave it with me for three days. As a result I was able to achieve my goal in making the kit simpler to install.

There is a couple of reasons for this change. First is the install...and the feedback I received from current customers. A couple of you guys had a hard time with the installation of the 45* silicone coupler that goes directly on the turbo...and yes, it is a tight fit. This has now changed, and the new routing makes the install much easier.

The second reason (a result of the first) is the turbo options that will be available with the newly redesigned piping. With the new manifold the turbo sits at a slightly different location (very close to the previous). This allows me to use turbos that have the SP (S ported) compressor covers. These have a 4" inlet and a 2.5" outlet (vs 3.0" inlet and 2.0" outlet).

This opens up the doors for the new Precision GEN2 turbochargers like the all new 6266 rated at 800HP vs the old which was rated at 732HP:

http://www.precisionturbo.net/Street...6-CEA-reg-/567

As you can see this turbo is only available in the SP compressor cover configurations, so it was not compatible with the V1 of the turbo kit. There are a few more turbos that Precision is working on, but those won't be out till later this year. These will also be large turbos, and should only be considered for those who plan on building their engine.


Now to the recent changes.

If you recall, when I first had a donor car, I really wanted to route the IC piping on the driver side, but could not figure out a good way to do it. I then moved on, and figured out a way to push it though on the passengers side, and that works fine...nothing wrong with it, just a bit tight when installing.

It turns out, that if one moves the electrical connection on the starter by 180 degrees, enough room can be created to push a 2.5" intercooler pipe between it and the engine mount. This mod is very easy to do, loosen up an easy to get to 12mm bolt, spin the cable around 180 degrees, and you are done. Takes about a minute.

Here it is with the protective rubber boot, spun 180 degrees:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psdd773316.jpg


Because of this small modification the new plumbing looks like this:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7541a906.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps5f0f5599.jpg

Going in front of the OEM engine mount: (if you have an aftermarket engine mount, there will be room to spare since they are smaller diameter)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps2b0bed17.jpg

90 degree coupler looking from under the car, towards the steering knuckle:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psbe820ad5.jpg

T-bolt clamps are very easy to get to:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd6cb4894.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps61005277.jpg

And over to the turbo:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps50fd6eb7.jpg


On the floor it looks like so:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7ff302d0.jpg


Now, since I had to make a new manifold to change the turbo location I went an extra step. The manifold is now build out of SCH 10 pipe. This pipe has a wall thickness of 3mm and the is essentially now "extreme". It weighs twice a much, but it is also twice as strong. There is nothing wrong with V1 of the manifold because proper welding techniques were implemented (back purging being the most important). The V1 of the manifold is just fine, and is track proven on the 350z platform.

Half done:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7bfa33c4.jpg

Here you can see the difference in wall thickness between the old V1 piping and the new V2, the new is almost twice the thickness. :

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps84f7c0e8.jpg

Finished product:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps08996a86.jpg

Mounted:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psab6cc456.jpg

Clearance is still fantastic, and the lowest part of the turbo sits above the front sub-frame, and higher than the oil pan:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psa7c7c421.jpg

Port matched on the T4 flange:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps01280253.jpg


All up:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps573894d2.jpg


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps7de845e6.jpg



Old compressor cover vs. new:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps23ebe97b.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3681f6bb.jpg


New turbo with larger air filter:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psfeb7d128.jpg


As a result of all this, the kit will now come with a oil thermostat, and two oil lines. One to the standard 30 row oil cooler and one from it back to the thermostatic plate:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psda2f28a5.jpg

Boosted Performance 04-15-2014 12:09 AM

Now, going back to the V1 kit…

It is possible to use the new charge piping going from the turbo to the intercooler, with a new unmodified E compressor cover with the V1 manifold. The air filter would stay the same. You would need the three new pipes going from turbo to FMIC, and one 90* 2.5” silicone coupler. The turbo is clocked differently, but that is all. It is a simple changeover.

Here is a picture of the V1 kit with the new V2 charge piping:


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps571f781c.jpg




All installed, using the V2 manifold, V2 down pipe, V1 recirc pipe, and V1 Y-pipe going to the F.I dual exhaust:

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...psbd6cc02a.jpg

THE PRICE OF THE NEW V2 KIT DOES NOT CHANGE.

BONUS TO THE V2 KIT:


If you already have an oil cooler kit, you do not need to order one with the turbo kit. If this is the case, the price of the kit is $210 less. So, a complete twin scroll turnkey turbo kit without the oil cooler is $6,785 + shipping and PayPal.


So to sum it up, here is what is different:

*No need for oil filter relocation kit (so only 2 oil lines, to and from oil cooler)
*Retain OEM filter part number
*Oil thermostat will be included (Mocal)
*No need to fight with intercooler piping (routed on the driver side now)
*Kit will be compatible with all aftermarket oil cooler kits
*More turbo options, with SP compressor covers (4" inlet 2.5" outlet)
*No need to modify compressor cover (weld 90* elbow on outlet side)
*Larger air filter
*Much easier to install with new IC pipe routing
*Kit is compatible with all aftermarket oil cooler kits
*2012+ model years do not need to remove OEM oil cooler



At this time, I still don't think that the kit will work with the RHD cars, due to the steering knuckle being in the way of the larger air filter.

Now I just have to build a lot of these kits, since the demand has gone through the roof recently.

Cell 04-15-2014 12:33 AM

Wow it only gets better and better. Your V1 kit was awesome enough and now this...

BlkNismo 04-15-2014 12:55 AM

well somebody has been busy.

Job well done

TopgunZ 04-15-2014 01:09 AM

BP is good at opening up corrective actions. I can tell the CEO is an engineer...and a good salesman. I already want the latest model. :bowrofl:

YzGyz 04-15-2014 01:55 AM

I have to admit, this new version does not look as cool as the original. The old one looks really cool with all the bends and stuff. It does however look like it will function and install easier. Man I want this.

Alkatraz 04-15-2014 03:54 AM

Yay!!! Great to hear that this will fit a RHD with A/T!!! I'll take 5 kits!

Oh wait........sorry. I was dreaming again........carry on!

/troll :p


Nice work Sasha. Kit looks great!

mikey1600 04-15-2014 04:51 AM

awesome bit of gear! followed your first setup closely and even better now, great work. would go this in a heartbeat if it was available to me.

ZeN 04-15-2014 05:08 AM

Wow...now that you route it on the driver side it clears the passenger side alot, means RHD car have more clearance since the steering knuckle sits on the right side of the car. Still, my car is 7AT :(. I'll keep on dreaming

jwick 04-15-2014 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2781731)

Awesome work Sasha. I highly recommend you putting this exact picture in the new manual. It would have been real helpful knowing the configuration of the IC piping instead of all the trial and error we went thru. I took one of the IC piping on the ground during my install and I was going to send it to you to request it being added. Now that you have changed the kit that is no longer necessary (unless you are continuing fabricaton of any existing kits, then just let me know and I'll email it over).

Blaizon 04-15-2014 07:06 AM

Nice work! If I ever step into this platform, this would be the kit I'd go with bar none! It's great you are able to run the the PS covers now...I can't wait to see my friends car with this setup.

wheee! 04-15-2014 08:11 AM

Awesome work Sasha!

elperuano 04-15-2014 08:16 AM

Will this new version fit the G37? I know the old version was confirmed to fit, I'm sure hoping it does!

Chuck33079 04-15-2014 08:17 AM

Oh, yeah, NOW you go and make that part easier to install two days after we installed the old kit. :rofl2:

jwick 04-15-2014 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elperuano (Post 2781955)
Will this new version fit the G37? I know the old version was confirmed to fit, I'm sure hoping it does!

I can't see any changes that Sasha has made that would make it not fit a G37. You would have the same issues I had but nothing you can't work around

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Chuck33079 04-15-2014 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2781970)
I can't see any changes that Sasha has made that would make it not fit a G37. You would have the same issues I had but nothing you can't work around

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Agreed. It seems like nothing is different at all between the two cars once you get past the radiator support.

jwick 04-15-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2781971)
Agreed. It seems like nothing is different at all between the two cars once you get past the radiator support.

:iagree:

If the bumper wasn't different, there would be no difference.

Plasmite 04-15-2014 09:06 AM

:excited:

Boosted Performance 04-15-2014 10:44 AM

Updated post #2 :)

jwick 04-15-2014 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boosted Performance (Post 2782141)
Updated post #2 :)

Can you PM me the price for the new IC piping and compressor cover?

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Chuck33079 04-15-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2782171)
Can you PM me the price for the new IC piping and compressor cover?

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

NO.

jwick 04-15-2014 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2782174)
NO.

I would wait until the next time the turbo has to come out. It'd be nice to know what it would set me back.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Chuck33079 04-15-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2782178)
I would wait until the next time the turbo has to come out. It'd be nice to know what it would set me back.

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Whew. I wasn't about to undo that much of Saturday's work. :rofl2:

jwick 04-15-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2782179)
Whew. I wasn't about to undo that much of Saturday's work. :rofl2:

Hell no. Not being this close to firing her up

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Sh0velMan 04-15-2014 11:20 AM

Ugh. This + swapping to some Z1 headers would sure make my track car insane. (I have PPE Longtubes, so I'd need to swap to a shorty.)

BAD SHOVELMAN! BAD!

jwick 04-15-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2782199)
Ugh. This + swapping to some Z1 headers would sure make my track car insane. (I have PPE Longtubes, so I'd need to swap to a shorty.)

BAD SHOVELMAN! BAD!

Do it...

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

ANMVQ 04-15-2014 11:31 AM

Nice work Sasha. Makes me wish I had a RWD sedan :/

GaleForce 04-15-2014 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwick (Post 2782171)
Can you PM me the price for the new IC piping and compressor cover?

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

Same here please.

I'm all for less oil lines, and easier Re&Re.

Cbtech 04-15-2014 11:52 AM

Subscribed

1SlowNizzy 04-15-2014 01:55 PM

I can not wait for these kits to go on sell, will you make a post when you're ready to start taking despoits. I don't want to miss out on this.

Cell 04-15-2014 02:01 PM

This is an upgrade I will be doing when I go for bigger power.

Boosted Performance 04-15-2014 02:05 PM

I will have to sit down and put together the price for the new pipe kit package. Will post it in the original post once I have it all figured out.

I also just ordered a bunch of the extruded elbows used to make these new manifolds.

elperuano 04-15-2014 02:29 PM

Sweeeeeet

Joepro 04-15-2014 03:32 PM

Hypothetically is I switched to the new turbo cover and piping would I require a re tune? Or will the s-cover not fit? I assume the s-cover will flow more air, would this screw up my tune? I am fine with my setup, but I like the idea of reducing the amount of oil lines just to simplify things.

jwick 04-15-2014 03:54 PM

If I go this way I am definitely retuning but it should just be a quick touch up and nothing like the initial turbo tune.

Joepro 04-15-2014 04:00 PM

I just did some light reading and most say the s-cover helps more in higher boost situations, which I do not consider 10 psi high boost. In my mind I would switch to new IC piping and to the thermostatic plate, eliminating filter relocation and 2 oil lines. If the piping length is about the same and stick with an e-cover I cant imagine a re-tune would be needed, this is the route I think I would go.

jwick 04-15-2014 04:05 PM

The only reasons I would consider it would be to run a bigger air filter and get down to only four oil lines (I currently have 6 oil lines instead of 5 like the standard kit because of the GReddy thermostat).

My tuner is like 10 miles from my house and a quick retune would probably only cost me an hr of dyno time. When it's that little I'm more than willing to get it retuned.

Joepro 04-15-2014 04:10 PM

Im think the way Sasha worded things the s cover will not fit with the turbo location with the v1 manifold, at that point I think it will get too expensive to justify, I think I would stick with the e-cover and the new piping.

jwick 04-15-2014 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joepro (Post 2782590)
Im think the way Sasha worded things the s cover will not fit with the turbo location with the v1 manifold, at that point I think it will get too expensive to justify, I think I would stick with the e-cover and the new piping.

Now that I reread that I agree. It still might be worth it for the oil lines depending on the cost he comes back with but not for 10-15k miles when its time for a filter change

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk

jlo370z 04-15-2014 04:14 PM

Very nice! great work as always

who is next??? ;)


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:23 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2