GT Motorsports: 370Z Supercharger system development

iceman21_23

sam don't worry about it; let the haters hate. The GTM kit is sounding very promising and im looking forward to one day putting this kit on my car. Thank you for taking the time and dedication to develop such a kit for the 370z community. The more competition the better it is for all of us 370z enthusiast.

MMC Racing

Hater's hate is so overused. I don't hate GTM nor do I love Stillen. I like to see product's prove themselves. Grandstanding by one shop on a not even released product by another is just poor business practices.

But I guess I should flash one of these at you and call it a day right? Or am I generalizing?

1slow370

We all need to chill no vendor wars here please unless you are arguing over prices and who is going to be cheaper. We love all our vendors here and when the units are DONE we will make decisions individually as to which one we want to buy.

Sam, no amount of cross vendor fire will distract us from ragging you about getting the damn thing done (I kid)

Now just to be sporting here is my question about the MAF placement between the kits, How come no one is setting the MAF sensors in a draw through setup so they can actually measure the volume of air entering the engine before it is compressed, and splicing the IAT wiring off to a manifold sensor to accurately measure the incoming air temperature? I restate my question of whether or not you were able to upgrade the MAP sensor to gauge the amount of pressure in the manifold, or by retaining a mostly stock setup do you plan to simply adjust the fuel tables and VE to go around the problem.

Oh and I do mean that unless you want to create vendor hate here everyone just needs to STFU

Buddy Revell

I have to disagree. I don't think it's grandstanding. Sam brought up what he feels is a problem with the design of Stillen's kit, specifically the location of the MAFS. Now if there's something that Stillen has done to address this that outside observers can't see, there's nothing wrong with them clarifying it, to ease concerns potential buyers may have. And although early adopters are always at risk of being guinea pigs for things that go wrong, it's always better to address as many potential concerns as possible beforehand.

MMC Racing

I always believe in the market. The market is where products are proven one way or another. If the problem is as bad as Sam claims here, then Stillen's testing will prove that out and 1 of 2 things will happen. They will release it anyway or redesign it. If they release it anyway, it will fail to be a successful product. The market will choose the winner.

I don't think any company should have to do tit for tat responses to questions by a competitor on a not yet released product. Let SAM deliver some actual data (which he doesn't have of course) showing a problem and then pull out the popcorn, sit back, and watch. Sam is not some impartial 3rd party here, he has profit motive.

Buddy Revell

These are legit questions that potential customers/early adopters should know about. Asking these questions is a lot different than just mindless bashing. Nothing wrong with getting as much info as possible before spending a pretty large amount of money, right?

However, to make sure things don't continue to spiral off the original topic, I do think that questions about the Stillen kit should be asked on their thread and that questions about GTM's kits should be on this thread.